(October 23, 2015 at 12:13 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:Minimalist stated that creationism is bs. obviously that statement has to be based upon something other than "i don't know".(October 23, 2015 at 12:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Okay, so give us your version of how the universe came to exist.
Why does anyone need to give a "version" of how the universe came into being? "I don't know" is the only honest answer anyone can give. Adopting some ancient narrative as The Truth that must be defended at all costs is arbitrary, dishonest, and idiotic.
(October 23, 2015 at 12:17 pm)dyresand Wrote:Here's the thing, the big bang requires just as much faith as creationism. You can't accept the idea of a creator, but you CAN seem accept creation happening spontaneously out of nothing.(October 23, 2015 at 12:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Okay, so give us your version of how the universe came to exist.
Thought you guys referred to that as magic?

(October 23, 2015 at 12:21 pm)robvalue Wrote: It is a mistake to assume that the universe "came to exist" and has not instead always existed in some form.
If that's what you want to "believe", fine. But you have no evidence for that being the case.