Uh-oh, I smell a "evolution has never been observed" argument coming. This can only lead to a macro/micro evolution conversation. Get ready to hear about some imaginary boundary keeping "micro evolution" from becoming "macro evolution", which has never been observed.

You know, Creationism hasn't been fucking observed either.

(October 23, 2015 at 1:35 am)Minimalist Wrote: I don't have to see it to know creationism is bullshit.

Okay, so give us your version of how the universe came to exist.

(October 23, 2015 at 11:44 am)Exian Wrote: Uh-oh, I smell a "evolution has never been observed" argument coming. This can only lead to a macro/micro evolution conversation. Get ready to hear about some imaginary boundary keeping "micro evolution" from becoming "macro evolution", which has never been observed.

Perhaps, or I may lead somewhere else (depends on the answer);  but,  for now, I am just looking at the principles being asserted and trying to get a better clarification for what was said.  If we do that, then we can see if it is applied consistently.  I'm willing to be flexible on the rules, but changing the rules based on the case, is special pleading... wouldn't you agree?

(October 23, 2015 at 11:44 am)Exian Wrote: Uh-oh, I smell a "evolution has never been observed" argument coming. This can only lead to a macro/micro evolution conversation. Get ready to hear about some imaginary boundary keeping "micro evolution" from becoming "macro evolution", which has never been observed.

That good old canard comes up quite often still.

(October 23, 2015 at 12:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(October 23, 2015 at 1:35 am)Minimalist Wrote: I don't have to see it to know creationism is bullshit.

Okay, so give us your version of how the universe came to exist.

Why does anyone need to give a "version" of how the universe came into being? "I don't know" is the only honest answer anyone can give. Adopting some ancient narrative as The Truth that must be defended at all costs is arbitrary, dishonest, and idiotic.

Oh wow, the argument from ignorance again. If I had a penny...

I've never had a problem saying "I don't know", even from a young age. It must be horrible to be so shit scared of that phrase that you'll believe anything as long as you have an answer.