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bacon causes cancer! WHO!
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RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO!
(October 28, 2015 at 1:54 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Humans were probably eating meat since they were apes, but still it's not good to eat meat anymore because these animals that "we" eat today are not the same animals. For starters today's cows and pigs have something like 50% of fat to meat ratio, while wild animals have 5% so that's one of the reason why so many people suffer cardiovascular diseases, diabetes and mental illnesses. Other reasons are truly appealing conditions livestock is being held in: they frequently walk in their own shit to their knuckles (if they are allowed to walk at all) and pumped with steroids and antibiotics and other stuff.

I mean if you eat meat you eat it for proteins and today you can get them from other sources, it's not stone-age anymore. For instance there are protein powders. I've been vegetarian for many years and for breakfast and dinner I blend some fruit and vegetables with a cup (usually 25 grams) of protein powder and it's more energetic, tastier and not to mention healthier.

Great. More uninformed bullshit.

No one forces us to eat cattle and pig meat. We can eat horse, kangaroo, venison, rabbit, lamb, duck, seal, chicken, fish, snail, marine mammalian meats. 50% fat is a figure you pulled out of your ass, and the fat content of meat is dependant not just on the source of the food, but also the breed. For example, American mince (they call ground beef) on average contains around 10% or so more fat than Australian mince does. So while the average fat content for Australian mince is something like 15%, for American ground-beef it's more like 25%. But that's just the average, it's up to you which you want to buy.

The majority of the world's plant species are either poisonous to us, or inedible. While there are plenty of "wild" meats we have to chose from, and only a handful of domesticated species (like pig and cattle), the vast majority of plant foods we consume are artificially-selected and domesticated. This includes: Wheat, Maize, Rice, Banana, Tomato, Cornflour, Broccoli, Orange, Apple, Pear, Lemon, Figs, etc. It includes the vast majority of plant foods. If your argument is that you want to avoid domesticated foods then you have far more plant foods you'll need to avoid compared to animal foods.

Nutrients found only in meat include B12, Vitamin D, and cholesterol. Meat/animal foods are the best source of Vitamin A and calcium. Animal foods are the only foods that provide high quality protein. Protein from soy-bean is not high-quality, and raw soy is poisonous to humans. We can only consume processed or fermented soy. Cholesterol deficiency directly causes mental illness, and it's nearly impossible to raise LDL levels without animal foods. And calcium or vitamin D deficiency as you would well know causes osteoporosis.

Plant foods contain lectins. All plant foods do, but the ones with the highest concentration of lectins are grains like wheat and maize. Lectins bind to nutrients and inhibit the absorption into the body of key nutrients. If you were to consume raw grains you would absorb almost nothing from them and pass them straight out your rear end. We generally pulverise the grains and make the nutrients more absorbable, but they're still inhibited by them. There's also gluten which causes digestive problems for some people.

Your advice is completely wrong, and the scourge of all dieticians. You might know a couple of things, but 99% of your vegetarian beliefs are based on inference, anecdotal evidence, or other non-dietary concerns such as moral or environmental concerns (which are also misplaced).

Animals are not shot-up with hormones. They're only given antibiotics, by a vet, if they need them. They are not held in "appalling conditions" in a first world country such as Australia. The very suggestion is not only completely ignorant, but deeply offensive to many people. Breaches of animal welfare are treated very seriously.
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bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by ignoramus - October 27, 2015 at 4:23 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by robvalue - October 27, 2015 at 5:14 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by ignoramus - October 27, 2015 at 5:34 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Grandizer - October 27, 2015 at 6:24 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by robvalue - October 27, 2015 at 6:09 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by houseofcantor - October 27, 2015 at 6:35 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by ignoramus - October 27, 2015 at 7:58 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Iroscato - October 27, 2015 at 8:22 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by houseofcantor - October 27, 2015 at 8:46 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Iroscato - October 27, 2015 at 8:49 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by houseofcantor - October 27, 2015 at 9:05 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Losty - October 28, 2015 at 12:14 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Anomalocaris - October 27, 2015 at 9:11 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by StuW - October 27, 2015 at 9:12 am
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RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by abaris - October 27, 2015 at 4:49 pm
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RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by The Grand Nudger - October 27, 2015 at 6:40 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by AFTT47 - October 27, 2015 at 6:55 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Aractus - October 28, 2015 at 3:22 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Napoléon - October 27, 2015 at 7:01 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by AFTT47 - October 27, 2015 at 7:12 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Napoléon - October 27, 2015 at 7:23 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Anomalocaris - October 28, 2015 at 12:19 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Faith No More - October 29, 2015 at 4:18 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by The Grand Nudger - October 27, 2015 at 7:24 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by dyresand - October 28, 2015 at 12:00 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Anomalocaris - October 28, 2015 at 12:18 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by AFTT47 - October 28, 2015 at 12:23 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Losty - October 28, 2015 at 12:20 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by ApeNotKillApe - October 28, 2015 at 12:23 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by ignoramus - October 28, 2015 at 12:56 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Aractus - October 28, 2015 at 3:21 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Fake Messiah - October 28, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Aractus - October 28, 2015 at 4:46 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Fake Messiah - October 30, 2015 at 7:20 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Aractus - October 30, 2015 at 9:04 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by LastPoet - October 28, 2015 at 2:05 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Fidel_Castronaut - October 29, 2015 at 9:28 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Excited Penguin - October 29, 2015 at 12:13 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by robvalue - October 29, 2015 at 12:23 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2015 at 12:27 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Excited Penguin - October 29, 2015 at 1:40 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by robvalue - October 29, 2015 at 12:29 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2015 at 12:55 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2015 at 3:15 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Excited Penguin - October 29, 2015 at 3:41 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2015 at 4:07 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2015 at 4:30 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Napoléon - October 29, 2015 at 4:36 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Faith No More - October 29, 2015 at 4:35 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2015 at 4:36 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by ignoramus - October 29, 2015 at 4:39 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by robvalue - October 30, 2015 at 7:46 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Anomalocaris - October 30, 2015 at 8:39 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by The Grand Nudger - October 30, 2015 at 9:27 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Fake Messiah - November 1, 2015 at 2:51 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Excited Penguin - October 30, 2015 at 9:58 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by The Grand Nudger - October 30, 2015 at 9:59 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by robvalue - November 1, 2015 at 3:10 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Fake Messiah - November 2, 2015 at 8:00 am
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by The Grand Nudger - November 1, 2015 at 3:32 pm
RE: bacon causes cancer! WHO! - by Anomalocaris - November 1, 2015 at 3:48 pm

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