RE: ObamaCare?
October 29, 2015 at 8:14 pm
(This post was last modified: October 29, 2015 at 8:24 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(October 29, 2015 at 7:30 pm)MentalGiant Wrote: No, DNR states do not treat me because it's a decision I have made for myself.You and I are never going to see eye to eye on this one..but who cares? Does Obamacare prevent you from signing a DNR. Nope. If you sign a DNR, privately, for reasons of "because I don't think I could afford the R part and subsequent treatment" - that's your business, and you can do that. If you decide to simply not go to a doctor..you can do that to. Obamacare doesn't prevent you from achieving your ends.
Quote:I am not saying poor people shouldn't have an option for healthcare and insurance if they so choose at all. I am saying anyone (rich or poor) should have the option to opt out of the system IF they sign a declaration removing financial liability from the taxpayer and legal obligation from the doctor until they do sign up and begin paying in like everyone else. It has nothing to do with socioeconomic status, it has to do with personal choices. I very seriously doubt many people would put themselves in that position and most would have the insurance, go to the doctor when they felt they needed and not have to worry. I suppose in the moments prior to death I could also wish to revoke my DNR yet still be unable to communicate that and die because of my choice. Oh well, make a different decision if you don't think you can deal with the one you currently have in place.We would find it very difficult to let them opt out. We would need to change other laws, and a significant portion of medical practice as we see it, to allow for people to choose to die....for having been poor. That's not a country I want to live in.
Quote:Edit: The problem is there is only one car available to choose from that you are being REQUIRED to buy and on top of that, you have to pay for your irresponsible neighbors car too, leaving very little if anything to pay for the car you actually wanted in the first place (and you also have no option not to own a car either)!Get richer then...you're the one who thinks that your wealth is some arbitrator of what you do or don't deserve or should have made available to you, not me. Hilariously, you seem to think that illness is all due to some lacking moral personality trait in the other person. How irresponsible of me, to have been hit by a drunk driver........how irresponsible of me, to have luekemia.......how irresponsible of me, to have a handicapped child.
The reason that we require everyone to pay in..is precisely -so- that no one is a drain on the system. If we let people opt out...due to how we handle medical care, they'd still get it...and that cost would still be born by other consumers. The only difference would be that we let irresponsible scammers like yourself opt out, an irresponsible decision...lol.
You know what else you could do..to get rid of this egregious tax in your life...you could join the service. Vets don't need to pay the tax -or- find their own provider. VA, baby.
(October 29, 2015 at 7:37 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: The same might also be said of you.I try my best to encourage the suspicion every now and again.
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