Does anyone seriously believe that one day all religion will die?

[ScienceIsTheOnlyLord]

Throughout all recorded human history, religion has played a part. Why would you then think that this will ever change?

To respond to your rhetorical question with another – Why would you then think that this will never change?

Because there is no evolutionary benefit in people not believing in god. they can still fuck, these believers.

Darwin taught us that we are animals like the rest. No other animal can change its nature through thought and effort, so then why us?

I reject your statement utterly. You insult those of us who have changed themselves for the better. If that assertion of yours was remotely true I couldn't have possibly deconverted from Christianity even if I tried to...

Those of us who have changed themselves for the 'better' (a subjective achievement) have done so in a way that has not changed their human nature. when you converted from christianity you didn't stop being human. you didn't change your nature. you just followed your nature, into non-believing. other people's nature takes them elsewhere.

Schopenhauer - surely the most realistic of all the philosophers - told as that 'we can do what we will, but we cannot will what we will'. Unlike Dawkins, he truly understood the message of Darwin.

What are you talking about? Schopenhauer was a philosopher, him and several biologists published their work on evolution roughly three decades before Charles Darwin conducted his scientific investigations into the diversity of living organisms. Darwin is credited with acceptance of the theory. You could argue Arthur Schopenhauer was a forerunner of Darwin. Schopenhauer was *not* inspired or influenced by Darwin's work in any manner.

Not much i can say to this. yep, he wasn't inspired by darwin, but his viewpoints - even though coming earlier - understand darwinism better than most: the will is unalterable.

Religion has always been with us and always will. It is insane and ignorant of the realities of darwinism to try and change this. Tolerance and understanding of the failings of human logic (i.e. religion) is the wisest state of mind. Everything else is just pie-in-the-sky talk.

Accept. Tolerate. The world will never be united in a single philosophy. And thank god for that (figure of speech).

Here's a thought experiment for you. You met several people belonging to a cult who announces to you their new religion demands that they sacrifice you to the giant frog god in the sun. Needless to say you'd be the first to accept that what they're doing/proposed in the name of that religion is wholly, ignorantly and abominably wrong - in light of this gross human misconduct I daresay you'd be the first to abandon any notion of tolerance and understanding of such mind states...

i'm not saying tolerate everything. i'm saying tolerate all that can be tolerated. if someone tries to kill you for whatever reason, faith, logical or otherwise, resist it by all means. but if that someone does kill you, then you might as well tolerate your death.

Does anyone really believe religion will one day die out? If not, give up trying to convert people, and begin trying to understand them.

Sure, our religions die out when people either finally wake up and realise it's a steaming pile of fallacious made-up bullshit, or, more likely, when the human race goes extinct.

the former will never happen, the latter will definitely happen.

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