RE: Jiihadi John Assasinated
November 13, 2015 at 7:42 pm
(This post was last modified: November 13, 2015 at 7:44 pm by robvalue.)
Assassinated is exactly the word I used when I heard this news. I know what you mean AFTT, I'm conflicted about this.
It's hard to make a proper judgement without all the information. Were they planning to take this guy out specifically and waiting for the chance? Were they just taking out ISIS guys and happened to hit him? Or did they see an opportunity to kill an annoying target and take it?
I have no idea, probably few people know the whole truth here; we get told what they want us to hear.
I agree that this guy is scum and the world is better off without him. But then that applies to many, many people, and it wouldn't justify killing them out of combat. I really don't know what the "rules" are here. Is the US officially at war to such a degree that killing any confirmed ISIS guys at any time is fair game? Even if they aren't actually posing a threat at the time you kill them? Calling this self defence seems like a stretch, it's more like revenge.
Part of me wants the whole of the civilised world to get together, hunt out every last one of these fuckers and rid the world of them for good. But the other part sees a load of broken, programmed people. Mental illness would normally explain the kind of behaviour we see from ISIS, but there's just too many of them for that to be credible. Surely for at least some of them, people who would otherwise have been normal people have been fucked with so badly that they are now ruthless killing machines.
It's hard to make a proper judgement without all the information. Were they planning to take this guy out specifically and waiting for the chance? Were they just taking out ISIS guys and happened to hit him? Or did they see an opportunity to kill an annoying target and take it?
I have no idea, probably few people know the whole truth here; we get told what they want us to hear.
I agree that this guy is scum and the world is better off without him. But then that applies to many, many people, and it wouldn't justify killing them out of combat. I really don't know what the "rules" are here. Is the US officially at war to such a degree that killing any confirmed ISIS guys at any time is fair game? Even if they aren't actually posing a threat at the time you kill them? Calling this self defence seems like a stretch, it's more like revenge.
Part of me wants the whole of the civilised world to get together, hunt out every last one of these fuckers and rid the world of them for good. But the other part sees a load of broken, programmed people. Mental illness would normally explain the kind of behaviour we see from ISIS, but there's just too many of them for that to be credible. Surely for at least some of them, people who would otherwise have been normal people have been fucked with so badly that they are now ruthless killing machines.
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