Curious question of curiosity.

[jenny1972]

I know right, and so those people should know that they aren't celebrating christmas for the reasons it was established, so they might live more accordingly to their religious traditions. 

"Yeah rhythm, this commercial culture"  -nope, not even remotely the subject.

The idea behind reappropriating pagan holidays was to reduce the amount of evil juju in the air, to make the days holy by celebrating them, and thusly reduce whatever fraction of "unholy" this-and-that's might be flitting around - in order for the society to garner favor from god and avoid his righteous punishment on the collective.  That's what christmas is about, warding off evil.  Christmas has nothing to do with christ, never did, still doesn't.  Ironically, christmas as it stands today (and then) has nothing to do with paganism either.  It's just an example of the larger narrative of superstitions which have outlived our memories regarding their establishment.

OFC most christians don't believe in goblins anymore, and if they thought that their holiday was magical protection against trolls they might feel a little silly.........but they like the party...so now it's "about jesus" - or something like that...........despite having nothing to do with jesus - and that's not silly, apparently.   Christians, nowadays, seem to be suckers for any excuse for a party.  They used to keep us safe from goblins and trolls....and I can't help but feel that the quality of their service has declined the past few centuries, if the best they've got today is some shit about a manger and a cup of eggnog.  Who's covering the troll situation, should I be alarmed?

No.  You're wrong Rhythm.    The Christmas holiday was created to turn the winter solstice into a christian holy day for christians, and was created in order to give the winter solstice holiday a special meaning for them.  For christians it has always been a celebration of Christ's birth.  No christians are celebrating Christmas to honor it's pagan roots.  It doesn't matter a whit to me what the pagans celebrated on that date.  When you celebrate Christmas are you honoring a pagan belief?

so Santa Clause coming to give kids presents is related to jesus how?  its a fun holiday for kids and i loved any holiday that involved me getting things im sure i always loved it but how is it christian and you believe jesus was born on december 25 ?