what do non/anti-religion Deists and Theists believe ?

[jenny1972]

You can't seem to make up your mind as to whether or not god is demonstrable.  I guess god is both demonstrable and not demonstrable simultaneously.  He's special anyway, the usual rules don't apply.  Is that something I can add to the list of things that deists/theists believe?  A thing can be both "x" and "not x" at the same time.  

How would knowledge regarding god even be possible, in that case?  If I told you that an object was red -and- not red....what color is it, based upon the information I gave?  Can you see why discussing god in such a way might not be all that fruitful?  Why calling god demonstrable, or presenting -any- information about god as a possible fact, in that case...... is fantasy?  If a thing can be both x and not x there is no such thing as a fact to begin with.  Truth becomes an empty term.

demonstratable only for God to human i dont think God is demonstratable human-human but God- human demonstratable but on an individual basis and cannot be demonstrated by the human to other humans . yes demonstratable to individuals but at the same time cannot demonstrate to others so yes that is why i say its fruitless the discussion for people who God has not demonstrated to , but for those who do know what im talking about it would be productive because no demonstration is needed since they already believe . it depends on if your having the conversation with someone who does or does not believe in God.