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Can you be a "Non religious muslim"?
August 21, 2022 at 3:05 pm
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It sounds weird. But think about it. You just are like "Yeah i am a muslim, just not religious". Would that count as "not getting killed card"? i am just wondering? Since all you need is say you are a muslim but just not religious, and that is a way to not get killed for apostasy. But what you think?
Some people may also call it "Non-denominational Muslim"
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RE: Can you be a "Non religious muslim"?
August 21, 2022 at 3:24 pm
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You either follow Allah rules or you dont. If you dont follow them, then you arent getting in to heaven.
Its like if you wear a Police uniform, have a document that you are a police officer. But on your job you try to work as less as possible and even commit crime yourself.
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RE: Can you be a "Non religious muslim"?
August 21, 2022 at 3:44 pm
(August 21, 2022 at 3:24 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: You either follow Allah rules or you dont. If you dont follow them, then you arent getting in to heaven.
Its like if you wear a Police uniform, have a document that you are a police officer. But on your job you try to work as less as possible and even commit crime yourself.
But what if you get killed if you quit the job? So what choice do you have?
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RE: Can you be a "Non religious muslim"?
August 21, 2022 at 3:46 pm
(August 21, 2022 at 3:44 pm)Woah0 Wrote: (August 21, 2022 at 3:24 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: You either follow Allah rules or you dont. If you dont follow them, then you arent getting in to heaven.
Its like if you wear a Police uniform, have a document that you are a police officer. But on your job you try to work as less as possible and even commit crime yourself.
But what if you get killed if you quit the job? So what choice do you have?
If its that bad, then you will just fake it. Or seek asylum in other countries.
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RE: Can you be a "Non religious muslim"?
August 21, 2022 at 4:31 pm
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(August 21, 2022 at 3:05 pm)Woah0 Wrote: It sounds weird. But think about it. You just are like "Yeah i am a muslim, just not religious". Would that count as "not getting killed card"? i am just wondering? Since all you need is say you are a muslim but just not religious, and that is a way to not get killed for apostasy. But what you think?
Some people may also call it "Non-denominational Muslim"
‘Non-religious Muslim’ is a nonsensical term, since ‘Muslim’ is strictly a religious identity, not a cultural or ethnic one.
Non-denominational isn’t the same as non-religious.
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RE: Can you be a "Non religious muslim"?
August 21, 2022 at 4:57 pm
Since Allah does not exist, yes, you can be a non-religious Muslim.
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RE: Can you be a "Non religious muslim"?
August 21, 2022 at 5:43 pm
(August 21, 2022 at 4:57 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Since Allah does not exist, yes, you can be a non-religious Muslim.
No, you can’t. The truth or falsity of a religion has nothing to do with whether someone is religious.
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RE: Can you be a "Non religious muslim"?
August 21, 2022 at 5:55 pm
(August 21, 2022 at 5:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (August 21, 2022 at 4:57 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Since Allah does not exist, yes, you can be a non-religious Muslim.
No, you can’t. The truth or falsity of a religion has nothing to do with whether someone is religious.
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Says who? Religiosity is, in my opinion, completely subjective. For instance, a lot of Jews are atheist, yet consider themselves to be both Jewish and religious.
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RE: Can you be a "Non religious muslim"?
August 21, 2022 at 6:57 pm
(August 21, 2022 at 5:55 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (August 21, 2022 at 5:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: No, you can’t. The truth or falsity of a religion has nothing to do with whether someone is religious.
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Says who? Religiosity is, in my opinion, completely subjective. For instance, a lot of Jews are atheist, yet consider themselves to be both Jewish and religious.
Of course it’s subjective. That’s why it doesn’t matter if the god you worship is real or not. A devout Muslim is religious. If she is not devout, she’s not religious and therefore not a Muslim.
What makes someone a Muslim is that they believe in God and that the Quran is the direct word of God. If you’re not religious, you’re not a Muslim.
I know a fair number of Jews. I don’t know any who describe themselves as both atheist and religious.
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RE: Can you be a "Non religious muslim"?
August 21, 2022 at 7:10 pm
(August 21, 2022 at 6:57 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (August 21, 2022 at 5:55 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Says who? Religiosity is, in my opinion, completely subjective. For instance, a lot of Jews are atheist, yet consider themselves to be both Jewish and religious.
Of course it’s subjective. That’s why it doesn’t matter if the god you worship is real or not. A devout Muslim is religious. If she is not devout, she’s not religious and therefore not a Muslim.
What makes someone a Muslim is that they believe in God and that the Quran is the direct word of God. If you’re not religious, you’re not a Muslim.
I know a fair number of Jews. I don’t know any who describe themselves as both atheist and religious.
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