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Suicide
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RE: Suicide
(November 29, 2015 at 5:35 pm)Judi Lynn Wrote: Suicide, as it has been explained to you time and time again, happens because the person suffering, feels so much torment and pain that they are looking to end that torment and pain by ending their life. Read some real suicide notes sometime and I'm sure you'll finally get it.
How about skipping the homework assignments, and read what you wrote. . . "suicide NOTES" (caps mine)

This isn't something that just happened on a spur, as a note takes time, as does planning how one will kill himself. It is, by definition, premeditated. Strong feelings eventually lead to strong actions-- and treating suicides like sad, special snowflakes feeds into it-- knowing people will feel this way contributes, I think, to the suicide: "They don't care about me much now, but they'll be sorry when they see what their lack of care has led to."

Quote:Well then based on your train of thought, how exactly would you punish someone who has killed himself? Honestly, your argument is redundant and lacking any sort of real depth.
This thread isn't about punishment, or about law. It's about whether it is moral to decide unilaterally to remove oneself from existence. And in general, I'd say that it is not a moral act, although specific circumstances (like a painful terminal cancer) would be accepted as justification by most people. You might argue that it's a-moral rather than immoral due to the sufferer's lack of self-determination. However, if you read the OP, I'd say two things:
1) he clearly shows that he is aware of consequences and wants to know if there is moral justification for ignoring them
2) your sympathetic stance could be enabling, and this is immoral of you, in my opinion, unless you know the OP so deeply that you can agree that suicide could be a good thing
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Suicide - by ApeNotKillApe - November 24, 2015 at 3:46 am
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - November 24, 2015 at 4:04 am
RE: Suicide - by Alex K - November 24, 2015 at 4:22 am
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - November 24, 2015 at 5:19 am
RE: Suicide - by Redbeard The Pink - November 24, 2015 at 4:06 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - November 24, 2015 at 4:17 am
RE: Suicide - by ApeNotKillApe - November 24, 2015 at 5:47 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - November 24, 2015 at 5:49 am
RE: Suicide - by ApeNotKillApe - November 24, 2015 at 6:35 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - November 24, 2015 at 7:42 am
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 24, 2015 at 9:04 am
RE: Suicide - by Redbeard The Pink - November 24, 2015 at 6:46 am
RE: Suicide - by ApeNotKillApe - November 24, 2015 at 9:44 am
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 24, 2015 at 11:21 am
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - November 24, 2015 at 12:58 pm
RE: Suicide - by Redbeard The Pink - November 24, 2015 at 1:02 pm
RE: Suicide - by dyresand - November 24, 2015 at 11:31 am
RE: Suicide - by brewer - November 24, 2015 at 1:52 pm
RE: Suicide - by LastPoet - November 24, 2015 at 2:02 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 24, 2015 at 2:57 pm
RE: Suicide - by ApeNotKillApe - November 24, 2015 at 5:50 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 24, 2015 at 7:39 pm
RE: Suicide - by Reforged - November 25, 2015 at 7:08 am
RE: Suicide - by Redbeard The Pink - November 25, 2015 at 7:15 am
RE: Suicide - by Reforged - November 25, 2015 at 7:18 am
RE: Suicide - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 26, 2015 at 12:52 am
RE: Suicide - by Catholic_Lady - November 24, 2015 at 7:48 pm
RE: Suicide - by Redbeard The Pink - November 24, 2015 at 8:37 pm
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - November 25, 2015 at 3:36 am
RE: Suicide - by Catholic_Lady - November 27, 2015 at 4:43 pm
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - November 27, 2015 at 5:12 pm
RE: Suicide - by Catholic_Lady - November 27, 2015 at 5:58 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 27, 2015 at 9:14 pm
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - November 27, 2015 at 10:23 pm
RE: Suicide - by Edwardo Piet - December 9, 2015 at 9:55 am
RE: Suicide - by Joods - December 9, 2015 at 10:58 am
RE: Suicide - by Edwardo Piet - December 9, 2015 at 11:31 am
RE: Suicide - by Minimalist - December 6, 2015 at 12:25 pm
RE: Suicide - by dyresand - November 25, 2015 at 12:15 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - November 25, 2015 at 3:45 am
RE: Suicide - by ignoramus - November 25, 2015 at 6:54 am
RE: Suicide - by ApeNotKillApe - November 25, 2015 at 7:00 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 25, 2015 at 11:12 pm
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - November 26, 2015 at 4:16 am
RE: Suicide - by Catholic_Lady - November 27, 2015 at 11:40 pm
RE: Suicide - by Joods - November 28, 2015 at 12:13 am
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 28, 2015 at 7:18 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - November 28, 2015 at 2:36 am
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - November 28, 2015 at 4:44 am
RE: Suicide - by Joods - November 28, 2015 at 9:29 am
RE: Suicide - by Longhorn - November 28, 2015 at 9:45 am
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - November 28, 2015 at 1:02 pm
RE: Suicide - by Joods - November 29, 2015 at 7:46 am
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - November 29, 2015 at 8:41 am
RE: Suicide - by Faith No More - November 29, 2015 at 3:30 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 29, 2015 at 1:44 pm
RE: Suicide - by Faith No More - November 29, 2015 at 3:35 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 29, 2015 at 4:08 pm
RE: Suicide - by Faith No More - November 29, 2015 at 4:23 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 29, 2015 at 5:03 pm
RE: Suicide - by Joods - November 29, 2015 at 5:35 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 29, 2015 at 11:00 pm
RE: Suicide - by Sappho - November 28, 2015 at 1:17 pm
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - November 29, 2015 at 7:53 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - November 29, 2015 at 9:21 am
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 29, 2015 at 1:47 pm
RE: Suicide - by Joods - November 29, 2015 at 1:48 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 29, 2015 at 1:52 pm
RE: Suicide - by Joods - November 29, 2015 at 4:40 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 29, 2015 at 4:49 pm
RE: Suicide - by Joods - November 29, 2015 at 5:42 pm
RE: Suicide - by Joods - November 29, 2015 at 11:03 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 29, 2015 at 11:13 pm
RE: Suicide - by Faith No More - November 29, 2015 at 11:23 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 30, 2015 at 1:40 am
RE: Suicide - by DespondentFishdeathMasochismo - November 30, 2015 at 4:42 pm
RE: Suicide - by DespondentFishdeathMasochismo - December 6, 2015 at 9:26 am
RE: Suicide - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 9, 2015 at 5:05 am
RE: Suicide - by Dystopia - December 9, 2015 at 10:04 am
RE: Suicide - by Grandizer - December 9, 2015 at 10:59 am
RE: Suicide - by Joods - December 9, 2015 at 11:39 am
RE: Suicide - by Edwardo Piet - December 9, 2015 at 11:57 am
RE: Suicide - by Joods - December 9, 2015 at 12:04 pm
RE: Suicide - by Edwardo Piet - December 9, 2015 at 3:14 pm
RE: Suicide - by Grandizer - December 9, 2015 at 12:00 pm

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