(December 3, 2015 at 6:40 pm)Judi Lynn Wrote:(December 3, 2015 at 6:30 pm)Stimbo Wrote: A car is not designed for the purpose of causing grievous trauma. A firearm has no other purpose, unless you plan to use it as a backscratcher or something.
Ex-East End villain and now chat circuit pundit Dave Courtney, a man used to being shot at, despises guns and the people who carry them. His view is a pragmatic one for a gangster. Basically, taking a gun on a 'job' implies that at some point you are expecting to use it. One simple choice of inappropriate tool and suddenly you're looking at twenty years inside, at least one dead innocent bystander and dozens of destroyed lives, just because someone got twitchy. The crime could have gone ahead anyway, if it needed to happen, without it ending up just another shower of blood and innocent tears on the six o'clock news and then forgotten until the next one.
Good argument, however... Whlie a car isn't designed to cause death, it still can. Anything can if you think about it long enough. Case in point: Paper clips. Season 4 of NCIS in an episode where Ziva tells Tony that she can kill him 18 different ways with a paper clip. Granted, the paper clips original intention was to clip papers together. That doesn't mean that at some point someone won't figure out how to use it as a weapon.
I think you may be missing Stimbo's point - guns are originally designed as killing instruments. Sure, I can kill you with a paper clip, or a pencil or a marshmallow (the last is pretty difficult, but I've got some ideas). But in these cases, the item is not being used as intended. If I kill you with a gun, however, I'm fulfilling the original design of that instrument.
Boru
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