Chuck Wrote:The catholic church can hardly be said to be pro-science. Rather it is employing all the cunning and devious craft it has mastered through its two thousand year history to continue to perpetuate its own superstition based moral dominance in the era of science.
It obstructed for as long as it could every major step in humanity's endeavor to expand our understanding of the world by science, and when it finally could do so no longer, it tries through sophistry co-opt the fruits of that step.
Yes, we all know the history. What you may not be aware of is the fact that today many Catholics are intimately involved in scientific and medical research. These men and women are by and large not pushing YEC or any other pseudo-science. I was formerly a Catholic, and nothing in that faith prevented me from becoming a geologist who also has four years of anthropology study under his belt. And I think everyone here knows that I am an avid defender of science. I left the church for different, more personal reasons, and later became an atheist.
'The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference between a mermaid and seal. It could not be expressed better.'
-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
- Dr. Donald Prothero
-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
- Dr. Donald Prothero
