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RE: street epistemology
December 14, 2015 at 8:21 pm (This post was last modified: December 14, 2015 at 8:22 pm by drfuzzy.)
(December 14, 2015 at 8:04 pm)Delicate Wrote:
(December 14, 2015 at 7:36 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:


Somehow because an internet search on epistemology brings up xtian sites, therefore xtians have hijacked epistemology? What kind of defective reasoning is this? This is why I lack belief that there is anything rational about atheism. 

Also, any imagined cognitive dissonance is purely his own fantasy. It's predicated on a definition of faith that only works if you ignore the evidence and beg the question. And this can be demonstrated as true.  
 

Quote:Dr. Boghossian: Faith is not a virtue. It is absolutely not a virtue. It is an unreliable epistemology and part of the problem is that people think that holding a belief tenaciously, being a person of faith, makes you a good person. Being a person of faith does not make you a good person. It just means that you have a process of thinking about the world that is less likely to lead you to the truth. Once we make that shift from faith as a morality to faith as an epistemology, I think the house of cards will crumble and everything that is built upon the house – religion, everything – will fall with it.
Dr. Craig: This is so fundamental. This is a watershed. He says that faith is an unreliable epistemology. He wants to make faith an epistemological category instead of a moral virtue. It is right there that we need to dig in our heels and say this is a misunderstanding of faith. Faith is not an epistemological category. It is not a way of knowing something. Faith is a way of trusting something. Faith is trusting in that which you have reason to believe is true. So it is once you have come to believe that something is true using reliable epistemological means that you can then place your faith or trust in that thing. To do so is a virtue. It is a virtue to have faith in God. For example, to trust in him. So Boghossian is wrong right out of the blocks here and what will happen now is the trajectories will increasingly diverge as we go on. So you’ve got to stop it right out of the blocks, at the beginning, and say, “No, you are incorrect. You are construing faith as an epistemological category.” It is not that. Faith is one of the many different virtues.


Read more: http://www.reasonablefaith.org/a-manual-...z3uLL3n2xu

Faith is an unreliable epistemology.  It is a study of "knowledge" (the definition of epistemology) that doesn't exist.  It is a study of fairy tales and lies, and giving belief in something that doesn't exist "virtue" because you're being a good obedient little sheeple.  Faith is saying you know something that you cannot know.  It is lying and calling it holy.
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street epistemology - by drfuzzy - July 10, 2015 at 3:40 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Exian - July 10, 2015 at 3:48 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Pyrrho - July 10, 2015 at 4:54 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 15, 2015 at 4:59 am
RE: street epistemology - by Simon Moon - July 10, 2015 at 5:14 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Neo-Scholastic - July 10, 2015 at 5:29 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Simon Moon - July 10, 2015 at 5:39 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Cato - December 12, 2015 at 7:05 am
RE: street epistemology - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 12, 2015 at 7:14 am
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - July 11, 2015 at 1:49 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Spooky - July 11, 2015 at 1:59 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Clueless Morgan - July 11, 2015 at 10:30 pm
RE: street epistemology - by robvalue - July 12, 2015 at 4:18 am
RE: street epistemology - by Amine - December 12, 2015 at 6:44 am
RE: street epistemology - by brewer - December 12, 2015 at 9:05 am
RE: street epistemology - by RobbyPants - December 14, 2015 at 2:42 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 14, 2015 at 2:46 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 14, 2015 at 4:13 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 14, 2015 at 6:21 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 14, 2015 at 7:36 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 14, 2015 at 8:04 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 14, 2015 at 8:21 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 15, 2015 at 2:41 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 15, 2015 at 9:16 pm
RE: street epistemology - by The Grand Nudger - December 15, 2015 at 2:54 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 15, 2015 at 4:18 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Edwardo Piet - December 21, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 15, 2015 at 10:25 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 16, 2015 at 2:08 am
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 16, 2015 at 4:13 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 16, 2015 at 4:37 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 16, 2015 at 4:57 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 16, 2015 at 5:13 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 16, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 16, 2015 at 5:49 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 21, 2015 at 5:41 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 21, 2015 at 7:50 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 22, 2015 at 11:46 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 23, 2015 at 12:50 am
RE: street epistemology - by Alex K - December 16, 2015 at 4:39 am
RE: street epistemology - by TheRocketSurgeon - December 16, 2015 at 8:46 am
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 16, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 21, 2015 at 5:45 pm
RE: street epistemology - by TheRocketSurgeon - December 21, 2015 at 8:23 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 21, 2015 at 8:48 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 23, 2015 at 12:05 am
RE: street epistemology - by TheRocketSurgeon - December 23, 2015 at 1:48 am
RE: street epistemology - by tkolter - December 23, 2015 at 7:15 am
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 1:06 am
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 24, 2015 at 1:09 am
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 1:11 am
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 24, 2015 at 1:13 am
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 1:22 am
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 24, 2015 at 1:25 am
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 1:28 am
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 24, 2015 at 1:29 am
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 2:05 am
RE: street epistemology - by Simon Moon - December 24, 2015 at 2:20 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 3:22 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Nay_Sayer - December 24, 2015 at 4:53 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 5:01 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Nay_Sayer - December 25, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Simon Moon - December 24, 2015 at 5:11 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 5:18 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Simon Moon - December 24, 2015 at 7:29 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 7:38 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 24, 2015 at 7:41 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Angrboda - December 24, 2015 at 10:37 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Simon Moon - December 25, 2015 at 3:15 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 3:26 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Simon Moon - December 25, 2015 at 4:19 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Nay_Sayer - December 25, 2015 at 1:28 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Nay_Sayer - December 25, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 24, 2015 at 10:38 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 3:50 am
RE: street epistemology - by Angrboda - December 25, 2015 at 3:54 am
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 25, 2015 at 3:54 am
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 4:00 am
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 25, 2015 at 4:02 am
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 25, 2015 at 4:03 am
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 1:47 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 25, 2015 at 1:48 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 1:53 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 25, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 1:58 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 25, 2015 at 1:59 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 2:07 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 25, 2015 at 2:09 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 2:11 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 25, 2015 at 2:12 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 25, 2015 at 7:40 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 26, 2015 at 3:54 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 24, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 24, 2015 at 2:06 pm
RE: street epistemology - by TheRocketSurgeon - December 24, 2015 at 9:26 am
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 3:19 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 24, 2015 at 10:22 pm
RE: street epistemology - by The Grand Nudger - December 16, 2015 at 9:42 am
RE: street epistemology - by Alex K - December 16, 2015 at 9:43 am
RE: street epistemology - by Excited Penguin - December 16, 2015 at 3:42 pm
RE: street epistemology - by TheRocketSurgeon - December 16, 2015 at 5:10 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 16, 2015 at 5:45 pm
RE: street epistemology - by TheRocketSurgeon - December 16, 2015 at 7:14 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Excited Penguin - December 16, 2015 at 6:10 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Excited Penguin - December 16, 2015 at 7:25 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Excited Penguin - December 16, 2015 at 7:26 pm
RE: street epistemology - by TheRocketSurgeon - December 21, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Goosebump - December 24, 2015 at 2:56 am
RE: street epistemology - by Goosebump - December 24, 2015 at 2:56 am
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 2:47 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Edwardo Piet - December 24, 2015 at 4:43 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Edwardo Piet - December 24, 2015 at 5:01 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Sal - December 24, 2015 at 5:22 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 5:45 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Edwardo Piet - December 24, 2015 at 6:09 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Sal - December 24, 2015 at 10:06 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 1:40 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Nay_Sayer - December 25, 2015 at 1:46 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 24, 2015 at 10:07 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 24, 2015 at 10:41 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 24, 2015 at 10:49 pm
RE: street epistemology - by robvalue - December 25, 2015 at 5:06 am
RE: street epistemology - by Crossless1 - December 25, 2015 at 1:48 pm
RE: street epistemology - by abaris - December 25, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 25, 2015 at 3:47 pm
RE: street epistemology - by LastPoet - December 25, 2015 at 1:57 pm
RE: street epistemology - by LastPoet - December 25, 2015 at 2:03 pm
RE: street epistemology - by The Grand Nudger - December 25, 2015 at 3:18 pm
RE: street epistemology - by The Grand Nudger - December 25, 2015 at 3:27 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 25, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 5:11 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Simon Moon - December 25, 2015 at 7:54 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Sal - December 25, 2015 at 5:32 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 25, 2015 at 7:45 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 8:30 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 25, 2015 at 8:47 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 26, 2015 at 3:56 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Simon Moon - December 25, 2015 at 9:03 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 26, 2015 at 3:55 pm

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