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street epistemology
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RE: street epistemology
(December 15, 2015 at 2:41 pm)Delicate Wrote:
(December 14, 2015 at 8:21 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Faith is an unreliable epistemology.  It is a study of "knowledge" (the definition of epistemology) that doesn't exist.  It is a study of fairy tales and lies, and giving belief in something that doesn't exist "virtue" because you're being a good obedient little sheeple.  Faith is saying you know something that you cannot know.  It is lying and calling it holy.

These are myths perpetuated by the secular priests teaching atheistic dogma. 

You're in a dream world buddy. Let's go into the real world.

Faith is not an epistemology period. If you want to criticize faith as Christianity understands it, you have to look at how Christianity understands the concept of faith.

And you (just like Bogo the clown) don't understand it.


The question is, are you willing to educate yourself or are you content to wallow in your ignorance?

Pick education. Pick reason.

What's a "village atheist"?    And, it's "Bozo the clown".  Bogo means "buy one, get one".  And "secular priests"?  Are you implying that atheists follow some . . . preacher?  We don't.   

Your insults are infantile and unnecessary.  And surely you don't believe they add effectiveness to your "witness".

Faith, definition:  (Google)  "strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof."  (Merriam-Webster) belief and trust in and loyalty to God; belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion; firm belief in something for which there is no proof".  Now, how, exactly, do you think someone who does not believe any deities exist is going to view "faith"?  I do not accept something which cannot be measured, studied, and clearly identified.  I require concrete data.
 
      I do live in the real world.  The real world without any imaginary friends, ghosts, demons, or angels.  And I was xtian for over 40 years, I have most of the wholly babble memorized.  
     I am educated.  I read constantly.  I have two Master's degrees and a Ph.D.  I think that education and religion are mutually exclusive terms.  I believe that you can't study something that doesn't exist.  We can study human mythology, as it relates to history and culture - now that's fascinating.   
     We do agree on one point:  faith is not an epistemology.  The definition of epistemology is the theory of knowledge, especially with regard to its methods, validity, and scope. Knowledge is provable data, not flights of fancy. Faith is by its very definition, falsehood.  It is delusion.  When you say "I have faith that god is watching", the implication is "I know god is watching".  This is an un-provable,  and therefore false, statement.  If you say that you believe god is watching, that's fine.  Belief doesn't have the same weight as "faith".  That's why the term is praised in song and scripture.  The church HAS to insist that people accept what they are told without question, so they turn gullibility into a virtue. If they encouraged people to question, they wouldn't have a congregation.    
     Like most atheists, I will defend your right to believe anything you want.  Just as long as you don't try to change my mind, or insult me for not believing what you believe.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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street epistemology - by drfuzzy - July 10, 2015 at 3:40 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Exian - July 10, 2015 at 3:48 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Pyrrho - July 10, 2015 at 4:54 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 15, 2015 at 4:59 am
RE: street epistemology - by Simon Moon - July 10, 2015 at 5:14 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Neo-Scholastic - July 10, 2015 at 5:29 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Simon Moon - July 10, 2015 at 5:39 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Cato - December 12, 2015 at 7:05 am
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RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - July 11, 2015 at 1:49 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Spooky - July 11, 2015 at 1:59 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Clueless Morgan - July 11, 2015 at 10:30 pm
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RE: street epistemology - by Amine - December 12, 2015 at 6:44 am
RE: street epistemology - by brewer - December 12, 2015 at 9:05 am
RE: street epistemology - by RobbyPants - December 14, 2015 at 2:42 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 14, 2015 at 2:46 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 14, 2015 at 4:13 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 14, 2015 at 6:21 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 14, 2015 at 7:36 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 14, 2015 at 8:04 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 14, 2015 at 8:21 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 15, 2015 at 2:41 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 15, 2015 at 9:16 pm
RE: street epistemology - by The Grand Nudger - December 15, 2015 at 2:54 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 15, 2015 at 4:18 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Edwardo Piet - December 21, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 15, 2015 at 10:25 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 16, 2015 at 2:08 am
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 16, 2015 at 4:13 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 16, 2015 at 4:37 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 16, 2015 at 4:57 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 16, 2015 at 5:13 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 16, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 16, 2015 at 5:49 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 21, 2015 at 5:41 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 21, 2015 at 7:50 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 22, 2015 at 11:46 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 23, 2015 at 12:50 am
RE: street epistemology - by Alex K - December 16, 2015 at 4:39 am
RE: street epistemology - by TheRocketSurgeon - December 16, 2015 at 8:46 am
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 16, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 21, 2015 at 5:45 pm
RE: street epistemology - by TheRocketSurgeon - December 21, 2015 at 8:23 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 21, 2015 at 8:48 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 23, 2015 at 12:05 am
RE: street epistemology - by TheRocketSurgeon - December 23, 2015 at 1:48 am
RE: street epistemology - by tkolter - December 23, 2015 at 7:15 am
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 1:06 am
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 24, 2015 at 1:09 am
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 1:11 am
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 24, 2015 at 1:13 am
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 1:22 am
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 24, 2015 at 1:25 am
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 1:28 am
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 24, 2015 at 1:29 am
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 2:05 am
RE: street epistemology - by Simon Moon - December 24, 2015 at 2:20 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 3:22 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Nay_Sayer - December 24, 2015 at 4:53 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 5:01 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Nay_Sayer - December 25, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Simon Moon - December 24, 2015 at 5:11 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 5:18 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Simon Moon - December 24, 2015 at 7:29 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 7:38 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 24, 2015 at 7:41 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Angrboda - December 24, 2015 at 10:37 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Simon Moon - December 25, 2015 at 3:15 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 3:26 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Simon Moon - December 25, 2015 at 4:19 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Nay_Sayer - December 25, 2015 at 1:28 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Nay_Sayer - December 25, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 24, 2015 at 10:38 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 3:50 am
RE: street epistemology - by Angrboda - December 25, 2015 at 3:54 am
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 25, 2015 at 3:54 am
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 4:00 am
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 25, 2015 at 4:02 am
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RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 1:47 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 25, 2015 at 1:48 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 1:53 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 25, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 1:58 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 25, 2015 at 1:59 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 2:07 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 25, 2015 at 2:09 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 2:11 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 25, 2015 at 2:12 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 25, 2015 at 7:40 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 26, 2015 at 3:54 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 24, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 24, 2015 at 2:06 pm
RE: street epistemology - by TheRocketSurgeon - December 24, 2015 at 9:26 am
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 3:19 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 24, 2015 at 10:22 pm
RE: street epistemology - by The Grand Nudger - December 16, 2015 at 9:42 am
RE: street epistemology - by Alex K - December 16, 2015 at 9:43 am
RE: street epistemology - by Excited Penguin - December 16, 2015 at 3:42 pm
RE: street epistemology - by TheRocketSurgeon - December 16, 2015 at 5:10 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 16, 2015 at 5:45 pm
RE: street epistemology - by TheRocketSurgeon - December 16, 2015 at 7:14 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Excited Penguin - December 16, 2015 at 6:10 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Excited Penguin - December 16, 2015 at 7:25 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Excited Penguin - December 16, 2015 at 7:26 pm
RE: street epistemology - by TheRocketSurgeon - December 21, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Goosebump - December 24, 2015 at 2:56 am
RE: street epistemology - by Goosebump - December 24, 2015 at 2:56 am
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 2:47 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Edwardo Piet - December 24, 2015 at 4:43 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Edwardo Piet - December 24, 2015 at 5:01 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Sal - December 24, 2015 at 5:22 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 24, 2015 at 5:45 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Edwardo Piet - December 24, 2015 at 6:09 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Sal - December 24, 2015 at 10:06 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 1:40 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Nay_Sayer - December 25, 2015 at 1:46 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 24, 2015 at 10:07 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Silver - December 24, 2015 at 10:41 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 24, 2015 at 10:49 pm
RE: street epistemology - by robvalue - December 25, 2015 at 5:06 am
RE: street epistemology - by Crossless1 - December 25, 2015 at 1:48 pm
RE: street epistemology - by abaris - December 25, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 25, 2015 at 3:47 pm
RE: street epistemology - by LastPoet - December 25, 2015 at 1:57 pm
RE: street epistemology - by LastPoet - December 25, 2015 at 2:03 pm
RE: street epistemology - by The Grand Nudger - December 25, 2015 at 3:18 pm
RE: street epistemology - by The Grand Nudger - December 25, 2015 at 3:27 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 25, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 5:11 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Simon Moon - December 25, 2015 at 7:54 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Sal - December 25, 2015 at 5:32 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 25, 2015 at 7:45 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 25, 2015 at 8:30 pm
RE: street epistemology - by drfuzzy - December 25, 2015 at 8:47 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 26, 2015 at 3:56 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Simon Moon - December 25, 2015 at 9:03 pm
RE: street epistemology - by Delicate - December 26, 2015 at 3:55 pm

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