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Spread This And Please Expose These Televanglists!
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RE: Spread This And Please Expose These Televanglists!
(December 21, 2015 at 12:34 am)MW85 Wrote: CLady, what I'm exposing is outright lies Foul Osteen is spreading. He's saying things like "God is going to bring you ahead, etc...

Look at the stuff I posted. I'll put it this way. How an I tying almighty hands of God? He's supposed to be God. And if anybody's the thief it's not this devil, it's God himself for letting things happen.

First of all let me just say I'm sorry for all the bad things you've gone through. I hope things can continue to improve for you. And of course, welcome to the forums.

My issue is with saying that he's telling lies. Lying is a deliberate act of saying something that you know is false. I'm not a fan of Osteen and I really don't like the fact that he's a rich pastor... but a liar? What he's saying in those quotes you posted are all very basic Christian principles. If he's Christian, as he says he is, then he fully believes what he said about God. This is not lying. When a person says something that they sincerely believe is the truth, they are not lying.   

Also, and I'm not sure if you realize, but when he's saying stuff like "God is going to bring you ahead", he's referring to the next life. 

As for the stuff about God allowing things to happen... well, you are absolutely right that we believe He does. But that is part of giving us free will, and we believe the Demon plays a role in tempting us to take wrong paths that ultimately lead to more pain and suffering. 

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^You may not believe all that, and that is perfectly fine of course. But I just don't understand this whole thing about "exposing him." It's like you're exposing him for speaking Christian principles..., but of course he does. He's a Christian pastor! Lol. There's nothing to "expose", in that regard. Perhaps you could "expose" how much money he makes and how much of it he spends on useless luxuries rather than giving to charity, as Christ taught. That would be more accurately referred to as exposure, and I would back you up on it 100%.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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Spread This And Please Expose These Televanglists! - by MW85 - December 20, 2015 at 9:30 am
Spread This And Please Expose These Televanglists! - by KUSA - December 20, 2015 at 2:16 pm
RE: Spread This And Please Expose These Televanglists! - by Catholic_Lady - December 21, 2015 at 1:55 am

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