RE: Another reason Buddhism doesn't get a pass.
December 30, 2015 at 1:40 pm
(This post was last modified: December 30, 2015 at 3:14 pm by Brian37.)
(December 30, 2015 at 1:05 pm)miaharun Wrote: Hello Sir, I am a Buddhist and i don't believe the fantasy written in the books. Things like the divine speaking to the queen, flowers appeared from nowhere when the Buddha was born. Those are exaggerated claims. I don't think most sensible people who follow it believe in that. The Buddha has thought us first to observe what he has thought and only if it agrees with us, then practise it. Nowhere does he say "follow me because i am the truth" . What it teaches in a nutshell is to live a righteous life and to finally be free from all suffering. Doesn't imply that one finds eternal paradise. One just seizes to exist. I am fine with anyone calling it "nonsense" or "bullxxxx" :-)
No you are not fine with anyone calling it nonsense otherwise why make the attempt to "correct" me.
He was just a man who started a religion, thats it. Other humans have started other religions.
"righteous life" yea ok, if Buddhism is a cure, then why do even Buddhist countries also have prisons? If Buddha were unifying to all Buddhists there would only be one sect. If the 4 Nobel Truths were also unifying that to would dictate there would be only one sect. You'd have me believe that Zen Buddhists, Chinese Buddhists and Tibet Buddhists all agree with how to implement those "4 Noble Truths"?
Buddha is no more unifying to Buddhists than Jesus is to Christians or Allah or Mo is to Muslims. All have within them their own competing sects of what constitutes a "righteous life".
"They aren't true Buddhists" "They weren't practicing it right" same excuses I get from every other religion.
No, those myths are why Buddhism took off. Watering it down is what all religions do to stay relevant. Christians pull that shit too. When for example, you point out the bullshit of talking snakes and talking donkeys they cop out to metaphor too. Sorry, but back when Buddha started selling his story the motif of purity birth was LITERALLY believed.
Quote:The Buddha has thought us first to observe what he has thought and only if it agrees with us, then practise it
Yea and? Plenty of other liberals in other religions who say "Do good, believe what you want". Oh and with all religions I really hate the word "practice", it is not practicing it is following. Again, there is not one religion that does not have the motif of "do good and be kind. I'd only say that Asia and the Oriental religions are less dogmatic. But they are still not the gatekeepers of morality.