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Why I'm on these forums (Q/A)
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RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A)
(December 31, 2015 at 12:19 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: My biggest criticism of your arguments, MK, is that they have revolved around the meaning of words.  You always seem to start by reflecting on the definition of a word and then reasoning how such a thing could only mean X is the case.  But I don't think language carries any grand secrets about the universe.  From the definition you may assume absolutely nothing about the thing//idea represented by the word.

I think the difference is I see a lot of things about us as a living reality that is spiritual and see living reality as non-absolute connected to the absolute, non-eternal connected to the eternal, while you just take things are and there is no observation of this link can be made. I observe things more then simply dead concepts, but somehow how living signs of an absolute reality connected to us. I see eternal link or eternal property of features of our existence, including reasoning.  I think Atheists can't even acknowledge themselves as a living reality (ie. they are an experience created by the brain with no living essence in actuality, when it comes down to it). They say "what is a soul?" and what not, and can't even see the most apparent of things like our very real existence. It's not that they can't see the soul, it's they taken a stance, that it blinds them to the clearest sights they have constantly. That said, a lot of this "definition" is about defining parables I think. These parables I've come to know through Islamic literature, like the sword of honor of God, the face of God, the name of God.  I've been actually wanting to get into the sky/earth, trees/tree growth parables more regarding the nature of our soul and good actions, and the water of life/light from higher realm, but I doubt people will really see through it here. They will just call it word salad. 

I know through all this, it would be said "what does this mean" or I would be accused like Pharaoh accusing Moses of speaking non-clearly. Aeron/Ali excel in conveying and are eloquent at it, and as such were a great help to Moses/Mohammad respectively, some people are very good at conveying deeper truths, I'm not.

This is what we are missing in this day and age though, the deep doors to the knowledge of the self, like the likes of Ali, explaining the Quran to us clearly and manifesting it's wonders.

Most people who experience the inward kingdom through the power of the heart/soul/spiritual eyes, have a knot on their tongue. If the likes of Moses needed Aeron for his superior conveying qualities, then what of me, who can't compare to the intelligence of Moses?

I do my best. I know people don't understand everything I say, but, perhaps a few of you will be more charitable and lend the divine ear in your soul that can perceive and see the light as much as it can hear the wisdom. Then perhaps the word salad will be real healthy salad to the soul and awaken you to something.

You mentioned language doesn't carry any secrets of the universe while I believe it was created by God's Name/face. Adam was taught "all the names" and was the one to convey them to the Angels.

That said, somethings like time, if we focus on what we know of it, I believe will form good arguments for a Creator. So I like to focus on it's definition, to show it cannot be but this and that, which then leads to this and that, and so forth.

I do believe there is a secret in language, it's after all formed on reasoning in it's inward (for example A->B, Not B, therefore Not A), which is from God's existence and is of his name/face.
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Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by MysticKnight - December 30, 2015 at 7:05 pm
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 7:12 pm
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by Losty - December 30, 2015 at 7:37 pm
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by robvalue - December 30, 2015 at 7:47 pm
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by Whateverist - December 31, 2015 at 12:19 am
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by MysticKnight - December 31, 2015 at 2:43 am
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by *Deidre* - December 31, 2015 at 3:24 am
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by MysticKnight - December 31, 2015 at 3:33 am
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by Red_Wind - December 31, 2015 at 4:16 am
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by MysticKnight - December 31, 2015 at 3:42 am
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by Losty - December 31, 2015 at 3:47 am
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by MysticKnight - December 31, 2015 at 5:54 am
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by robvalue - December 31, 2015 at 3:56 am
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by Losty - December 31, 2015 at 6:02 am
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by MysticKnight - December 31, 2015 at 6:15 am
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by The Grand Nudger - December 31, 2015 at 7:31 am
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by Red_Wind - January 1, 2016 at 3:52 pm
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by brewer - January 1, 2016 at 4:05 pm
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by Catholic_Lady - January 1, 2016 at 4:08 pm
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by Cephus - January 1, 2016 at 4:16 pm
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by Brian37 - January 1, 2016 at 4:17 pm
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by Angrboda - January 2, 2016 at 2:02 pm
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by Aoi Magi - January 2, 2016 at 2:29 pm
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by Red_Wind - January 2, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by ignoramus - January 2, 2016 at 7:09 pm
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by MysticKnight - January 2, 2016 at 7:27 pm
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by Mr.wizard - January 2, 2016 at 7:35 pm
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by MysticKnight - January 2, 2016 at 7:38 pm
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by Mr.wizard - January 3, 2016 at 12:08 am
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by Brian37 - January 3, 2016 at 10:26 am
RE: Why I'm on these forums (Q/A) - by Nay_Sayer - January 2, 2016 at 7:52 pm

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