(December 31, 2015 at 7:44 am)Little Rik Wrote:(December 31, 2015 at 7:30 am)Brian37 Wrote: NO, "spirituality" is a loaded word and meaningless. Now, our species did not crawl out of the caves without questioning social norms.
No I will not leave any spirit, deity, god/gods/or God or supernatural claim alone. The only thing you can get me to agree to is allowing humans by law to make whatever claim they want. Humans have rights, but ideas as claims do not deserve blind value, outside the right to claim it.
FYI atheists are not a gang, scientific method is what confirms the validity of any given claim. "atheist" is not a dogma, it is not scientific method itself. "atheist" merely means "off" on one claim. There are plenty of atheists with their own woo just as absurd as any old myths of antiquity. I have met atheists who think the universe is it's own thinking entity. I have met others who believe in 9/11 and JFK bullshit conspiracy. I know atheists who worship guns on par with right wing gun nuts. I know atheists who are fans of Dumb Pac Chumphead. "Atheist" is not a dogma. We are not a gang, we are not a political party, we are not an economic view and some do have their own woo and superstitions.
Thor is a god, science didn't leave that alone, we know now lightening is not caused by a god. Poseidon the god of the seas does not create hurricanes. If our species never ditched bad claims, we wouldn't have our modern knowledge of the world.
Spirituality" is meaningless if you never engaged in of course.
No question about it.
Atheism on the other hand is dogma.
No question about it.
How would you known whether God exist or not if you never use the correct tool to investigate?
You guys keep on relying on physical science as if God would be a physical entity.
That is crazy.
It is by using the correct tool that you can find out and that tool is better known as spirituality or intuitional science.
I do not need a word rooted in superstition to have a feeling of "awe" about any good in life. I can look at a sunset, and have a deep feeling of "wow". I can have that same feeling when my mom tells me she loves me. I can have that same feeling when my cat curls up in my lap and purrs. I can have that same feeling when I think about the size of the universe or how small a quark is. I do not need to call it "spirituality".
That is a bullshit word, because there are also things in life that are extremely powerful that are quite nasty. There are deadly bacteria that can kill the strongest most healthy human. Hurricanes and tornados and volcanos are very destructive, I also have a sense of "awe" in the other direction like "WOW HOLY FUCK".
"Spirituality" is simply another loaded word and a gap filling word from an argument of ignorance. My appreciation for life and nature, good or bad, constructive or destructive is still there.
