(December 26, 2015 at 8:12 am)Stimbo Wrote:How? Not a problem.(December 26, 2015 at 4:02 am)snowtracks Wrote: The first brain required thinking to pre-exist.
No, restating the assertion is not the same as answering the question. I asked how it can precede a brain.
In fact, you've hurt your argument far worse than merely restating the point. You're begging the question, presupposing the conclusion in order to make the argument appear to work. "The first brain requiredbe thinking to be pre-existent, therefore thought preceded the first brain." You still need to demonstrate that.
Created from a far superior mind. Any scientific proof? None. However, it’s inference to the best explanation. Tracing an effect back to the cause (back to 'Causal Adequacy’ ) is what scientists often do to explain the origin of an event or structuring from the past; ‘how’ they do this is by employing Abductive Reasoning*. However modern science adheres to the principle of Methodology Naturalism; therefore, alternative causes are never considered…so in that case, the best they can do is propose that the human mind originated from non-thinking material. It did this without even have a target goal in place, and when the pathway in the evolutional up-stage resulted in a dead-end, the organism that was being developed kept functioning while the new organism was being experimented for the next stage, when that didn’t work, the original old organism was informed that another pathway would have to be considered. This went on for trillions of times until it inched closer to next state to that undefined target. The mechanism for trashing dead-ending pathways and communicating to the organism a new pathway is required is not understood but there’s an ’appeal to the future’ for a naturalistic explanation. The Superior mind doesn’t require a beginning --- The Universe’s energy, matter, space, and TIME began 13.77 bya. Beginnings are only required when there is TIME. The superior mind explantions also meets the 'Causal Adequacy’ requirement. Mind to mind is near infinity magnitude above a non-mind to mind explanation just by itself.
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abductive_reasoning
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.