RE: Atheists who have converted to theism?
January 5, 2016 at 10:21 pm
(This post was last modified: January 5, 2016 at 10:21 pm by *Deidre*.)
(January 5, 2016 at 10:07 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:(January 5, 2016 at 3:57 pm)*Deidre* Wrote: I've never dismissed any 'doubters' ...it's just not my thing. You sound like my Christian friends however who when I left the faith for a few years said...'you were never a true Christian.'
Didn't think this mindset goes on in atheist circles lol
At the end of the day, no one can tell someone else how to live...only share what makes your views, your views. For those who want to chastise people on either side of the fence, their rhetoric falls on deaf ears, as far as I'm concerned.
When you are really playing the game of the No True Scotsman Fallacy, the difference is in whether or not you have confused, or are seeking to confuse the definition of whatever school of thought which you claim. Can you give me a fail-safe definition of that school "Christian"? Would any official teacher in this school say it does not require belief? I was told by my youth pastor, decades ago that being "Christian" literally means "Christ-like". So could one be a Christian by acting just like Jesus did but doesn't actually believe the Jesus story? Then there's the rebel factor, and boy was Jesus ever described as this, in fact what he is said to have done would have gotten him in jail much sooner today than it eventually took him to the cross. The guy was a rebel, and in all honesty, a bit of a jerk with people who were just trying to pay their rent by plying their trade. REBEL is what most religious people treat the atheist as, and most religious people have no idea what else it really means. "ATHEIST" does NOT mean one who rebels against god, which is in all likelihood what happens when someone declares themselves atheist, while still believing that god is something other than a myth. OK, I went through attempts I've seen on how Christians define their own group. Would you like it if atheists and other people defined Christianity for you Christians? No? Then please don't define atheism for the atheists. The most straightforward definition is derived from the negation "a" and "theist", which means "believes in a god" - this yields "not a theist". That means exactly what it says on the tin, it doesn't say "rebel who is angry with his god", and that is why I can tell you without laying down any No True Scotsman violations that you are wrong if you say your rebels who stopped going to your church for awhile and started talking shit about your god were "atheists" just for that.
Dude, chill. I'm not really much of a debater...anymore. You can believe anything you wish, but let me believe as I wish to believe, too. You seem to have the issue, not me. lol