(January 5, 2016 at 11:29 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:(January 5, 2016 at 10:51 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Well, I felt might perhaps could exist without God, till I really thought about it. Here is the thread where I discussed the issue of value: http://atheistforums.org/thread-15323-page-7.html You "that means" doesn't follow. I had hope that God existed, but I was closer to despair at his existence, which is why this issue was very emotional for me. I didn't believe in God, I hope he existed, but I had arguments against God's existence. You can tell by those posts that this issue of human value hurt me. I read the posts again, and I remember the pain I was in.
Of course it hurts knowing that all of the fervently positive assertions made by your trusted elders wiere bull, and I still feel that pain when I think of it. It hurts even more when you realize that they had no better source than those lies for maintaining a positive outlook in life, and then you pity them. But when you are psychologically chained by ideas which you know cannot be true, one thing is for sure that llies which are known can do you no good. It is never positive to knowingly embrace falsehood! Let it go, and be free of those chains. Be free to choose your ideas based on their logic, and their descriptive merit, in order to best enable yourself to deal effectively with reality. The ideas which you are holding onto (that you need a metaphysical source because you seek a reason to care about what's good) is of strictly prescriptive merit, and the prescription is for medicine which is 2000 years past it's shelf life. To get a better prescription, start with a truer description. Stop running those old tapes that there cannot be any good without god, and you'll find plenty of good reasons why this isn't so.
I was distressed because I took my skepticism to the limit. First rule about doubting, know when to stop doubting.
