(January 6, 2016 at 1:03 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:(January 6, 2016 at 6:51 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: Well that's why I am confused, he claims for that week he was an atheist, but as an atheist believed morality required god. How can you not believe in something and at the same time believe it is required for things that happen in reality? If you cant shake the idea that god is the source of morality, then you never really stopped believing in god.
My understanding of the argument for objective morality (which is invariably subjective and dictatorial in the absence of a truly perfect and blameless god-being) is that those who are sold by this fail to observe and understand how primate life evolved. Basically, we really do have a lot more in common than our holy books would allow. Furthermore, the holy books are used no more for good than they are to feed the philosophy of the avaricious and the egotistical monsters of this world (e.g., "god helps those who help themselves", "god hates those people", "I'm on a mission from god!"). Just imagine a world without sources to help such people create gods in their own image, upon which they can deflect their evil deeds! People will always be different, but I believe it requires the delusional fantasies created by religious ideas to really cement the philosophical walls between people, and that we would all be significantly more close without them.
Oh ya I understand the whole morals from god theory, my issue was with him saying he was an atheist for week but couldn't shake the idea that his morality came from god. That's like going on a diet and saying " that diet didn't work for me, I followed the instructions but still continued to eat whatever I wanted."
