RE: Atheists who have converted to theism?
January 8, 2016 at 10:43 pm
(This post was last modified: January 8, 2016 at 10:44 pm by henryp.)
(January 6, 2016 at 8:00 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote:(January 6, 2016 at 1:03 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: My understanding of the argument for objective morality (which is invariably subjective and dictatorial in the absence of a truly perfect and blameless god-being) is that those who are sold by this fail to observe and understand how primate life evolved. Basically, we really do have a lot more in common than our holy books would allow. Furthermore, the holy books are used no more for good than they are to feed the philosophy of the avaricious and the egotistical monsters of this world (e.g., "god helps those who help themselves", "god hates those people", "I'm on a mission from god!"). Just imagine a world without sources to help such people create gods in their own image, upon which they can deflect their evil deeds! People will always be different, but I believe it requires the delusional fantasies created by religious ideas to really cement the philosophical walls between people, and that we would all be significantly more close without them.
Oh ya I understand the whole morals from god theory, my issue was with him saying he was an atheist for week but couldn't shake the idea that his morality came from god. That's like going on a diet and saying " that diet didn't work for me, I followed the instructions but still continued to eat whatever I wanted."
As someone who went through something similar, it doesn't all fall apart immediately. You believe God is necessary to morality. You stop believing in God. The next step is to stop believing in morality, but you have to think it through. It's not instantaneous. I'm putting words in his mouth, but I believe that's where his disbelief came to an end (or his belief in no God came to an end).
Myself, I got rid of God. Then morality. Then value, free will, meaning, etc... And it wasn't done in a week. If you even bother thinking about it, you have to undo each belief one by one.
I'm still adding and subtracting beliefs stemming from no longer believing in God which happened about a decade ago.