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Atheists who have converted to theism?
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism?
(January 8, 2016 at 10:55 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote:
(January 8, 2016 at 10:43 pm)wallym Wrote: As someone who went through something similar, it doesn't all fall apart immediately.  You believe God is necessary to morality.  You stop believing in God.  The next step is to stop believing in morality,  but you have to think it through.  It's not instantaneous.  I'm putting words in his mouth, but I believe that's where his disbelief came to an end (or his belief in no God came to an end).

Myself, I got rid of God.  Then morality.  Then value, free will, meaning, etc...  And it wasn't done in a week.  If you even bother thinking about it, you have to undo each belief one by one.

I'm still adding and subtracting beliefs stemming from no longer believing in God which happened about a decade ago.

Stop believing in morality? I'm not sure what you mean?

I meant objective morality.  Although, I did end up thinking subjective morality is also nonsense as well now that I think free will is imaginary.  It's a lot of dominos falling one after the other, but there is often long periods of time between them tipping over as our brains try to work out the details.

A semantic question:

If I said rocks can behave immorally, you'd say you don't believe that.  But if I said my subjective morality includes the behavior of rocks.  You'd think that was stupid.  But since it's subjective, even though my subjective view is dumb as shit, you'd still say you believe in morality for rocks as it exists subjectively?
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Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Jehanne - January 3, 2016 at 9:45 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Chad32 - January 3, 2016 at 9:57 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by rexbeccarox - January 3, 2016 at 10:43 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by MysticKnight - January 3, 2016 at 10:55 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Jehanne - January 3, 2016 at 11:46 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by MysticKnight - January 3, 2016 at 12:00 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Whateverist - January 3, 2016 at 12:25 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by MysticKnight - January 3, 2016 at 12:31 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Whateverist - January 3, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Nay_Sayer - January 3, 2016 at 5:23 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Red_Wind - January 4, 2016 at 8:29 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Mr.wizard - January 5, 2016 at 10:37 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by MysticKnight - January 5, 2016 at 10:51 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Mr.wizard - January 5, 2016 at 11:12 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by MysticKnight - January 5, 2016 at 11:19 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by MysticKnight - January 5, 2016 at 11:52 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by brewer - January 3, 2016 at 11:53 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Jehanne - January 3, 2016 at 12:45 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Jehanne - January 3, 2016 at 5:36 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Angrboda - January 3, 2016 at 5:17 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Crossless1 - January 3, 2016 at 5:22 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by robvalue - January 4, 2016 at 9:35 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Whateverist - January 4, 2016 at 10:24 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by robvalue - January 4, 2016 at 10:53 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Whateverist - January 4, 2016 at 10:38 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Grandizer - January 4, 2016 at 10:50 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Jehanne - January 4, 2016 at 11:20 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Jehanne - January 4, 2016 at 1:23 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by *Deidre* - January 4, 2016 at 11:13 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Jehanne - January 5, 2016 at 9:17 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by *Deidre* - January 5, 2016 at 1:08 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Jehanne - January 5, 2016 at 2:37 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by robvalue - January 5, 2016 at 2:46 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Pizza - January 5, 2016 at 10:07 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by *Deidre* - January 5, 2016 at 3:57 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by *Deidre* - January 5, 2016 at 10:21 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by *Deidre* - January 5, 2016 at 10:42 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Jehanne - January 6, 2016 at 9:20 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Jehanne - January 6, 2016 at 10:22 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by *Deidre* - January 6, 2016 at 1:01 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Jehanne - January 6, 2016 at 7:42 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Grandizer - January 6, 2016 at 12:55 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by *Deidre* - January 6, 2016 at 12:49 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by robvalue - January 5, 2016 at 3:05 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by *Deidre* - January 5, 2016 at 4:01 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Jehanne - January 5, 2016 at 7:13 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by robvalue - January 5, 2016 at 4:03 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by *Deidre* - January 5, 2016 at 4:07 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by henryp - January 5, 2016 at 4:27 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by *Deidre* - January 5, 2016 at 9:25 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Minimalist - January 5, 2016 at 9:33 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by The Valkyrie - January 5, 2016 at 10:46 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by *Deidre* - January 5, 2016 at 10:47 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by The Valkyrie - January 5, 2016 at 10:49 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by *Deidre* - January 5, 2016 at 10:54 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Mr.wizard - January 6, 2016 at 12:50 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Mr.wizard - January 6, 2016 at 6:34 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by robvalue - January 6, 2016 at 2:11 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Mr.wizard - January 6, 2016 at 6:51 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Mr.wizard - January 6, 2016 at 8:00 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Mr.wizard - January 7, 2016 at 6:34 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by henryp - January 8, 2016 at 10:43 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Mr.wizard - January 8, 2016 at 10:55 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by henryp - January 9, 2016 at 1:30 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Mr.wizard - January 9, 2016 at 12:10 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by henryp - January 9, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by Mr.wizard - January 9, 2016 at 12:45 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by henryp - January 9, 2016 at 12:57 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by robvalue - January 6, 2016 at 8:44 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by robvalue - January 6, 2016 at 10:47 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by robvalue - January 6, 2016 at 1:04 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by robvalue - January 7, 2016 at 6:48 am
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by henryp - January 9, 2016 at 1:12 pm
RE: Atheists who have converted to theism? - by robvalue - January 11, 2016 at 1:26 am

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