RE: Is Quran the proof of God?
January 9, 2016 at 10:23 pm
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2016 at 10:27 pm by Sheed1980.)
(January 9, 2016 at 9:40 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:(January 9, 2016 at 6:28 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote: would u like a different mathematical, or how about a scientific miracle, or an astronomical miracle, or just a linguistic miracle?
Yes please! I would love a miracle!!!
Here are the requirements: the miracle must occur in front of a scientific team that has the equipment to verify the occurrence. It must be clear and obvious that this occurrence could not take place if constrained by our current knowledge of physics, etc. The miracle needs to be something currently defined as IMPOSSIBLE, verified by multiple scientific testing. It would also, to be defined as a miracle, not exist as a result of any human action.
Then it would need to be distributed across the globe, for verification.
A causative agent would need to step up, take credit, and explain. If this did not occur, the "miracle" would clearly be a natural phenomena that was in need of further investigation.
ok here's a few more for u. The word for "moon" is mentioned 27 times and the word for "new moon" is mention 1 time totaling 28 which is the number of phases of the moon that orbits our planet.
The word "moon" is mentioned is ch.54 verse 1. If u count the remaining verses all the way to the end of the Qur'an there are 1,390 verses. The year 1390 of the Hijra(Islamic)calendar is equal to the year 1969 of the Gregorian calendar which we go by to this day. Of course we know that 1969 was the year that man first set foot on the moon.
In 23:44 God says "thumMa ARSalnaa rasulanaa tatraa" which translates to "Then We sent our messengers in succession" now this verse doesn't mention anything astronomical in message. But wait look at letters I capitalized in quotation marks. The Arabic letters Mim(M) Alif(A) Ra® and Sin(S) appear in this order and spell "MARS". The next time these Arabic letters appear in this exact order is verse 23:45 which is exactly "1" verse later and it says "thumMa ARSalnaa moosaa wa akhaahu haaroona" which translates to "Then we sent Moses and his brother Aaron" again u see this has no astronomical message but u see "MARS" again 1 verse later, and guess what? Mars takes exactly "1 day" to rotate around its own axis. But wait gets better. Chapter 46 is Al-Ahqaf which means "Sand dunes" in 46:23 it says "MA uRSil'tu bihi" meaning "what I am sent with". In verse 46:30 it says "unzila min ba'aDi MOoSaa" meaning "revealed after Moses". Now the capital letters here Dal(D)Mim(M)Waw(O)and Sin(S)in order spell "DMOS" the name of one of the moons that orbits Mars is called "Deimos". This is the only chapter these names are both mentioned together and with today's technology, scientists have recently discovered Mars is a planet completely covered with "sand dunes" which just so happens to be the name of this chapter.
In Arabic there is no letter "V" as in English and other languages. So the Arabic letter "W" is used to replace "V". In 8:72 it says "Wa ENUS tansurookum" meaning "And if they seek your help" The letters "WENUS" appear in order and the next verse where they appear again is in 11:3 "Wa ENUStaghfiru rabbakum" meaning "And seek forgiveness of your Lord". In 17:7 it says "Wa ENUSatum" or "If you do evil". It turns out that there are 243 verses between 8:72 and 11:3. Scientists have discovered it takes the planet Venus 243 days to revolve around the sun rotating on its own axis in an opposite direction of other planets. But to go further it rotates on an angle of 177 degrees (17:7).
The letters in Arabic all have numerical value just as Roman Numerals (I=1 V=5 X=10 etc). Chapter 57 is Al-Hadyd or The Iron. If u take the numerical value of the letters without vowels (H)=8 (D)=4 (Y)=10 (D)=4 they equal 26. If u look at any elemental periodic table the atomic number for iron (Fe) is 26. Now if u add Al to make it Al-Hadyd or “The Iron” (A)=1 and (L)=30 which equal 31 plus 26 u get 57 which happens to be the number of the chapter in the Qur'an. Also being 114 Ch. in the entire Qur’an, 57 is exactly in the middle. Scientists have discovered that the middle of our Earth, the core consists of molten iron.
(January 9, 2016 at 9:40 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:(January 9, 2016 at 6:28 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote: would u like a different mathematical, or how about a scientific miracle, or an astronomical miracle, or just a linguistic miracle?
Yes please! I would love a miracle!!!
Here are the requirements: the miracle must occur in front of a scientific team that has the equipment to verify the occurrence. It must be clear and obvious that this occurrence could not take place if constrained by our current knowledge of physics, etc. The miracle needs to be something currently defined as IMPOSSIBLE, verified by multiple scientific testing. It would also, to be defined as a miracle, not exist as a result of any human action.
Then it would need to be distributed across the globe, for verification.
A causative agent would need to step up, take credit, and explain. If this did not occur, the "miracle" would clearly be a natural phenomena that was in need of further investigation.
The number 19 is used thoroughly in the Qur’an. In 74:30 God says this is the number of angels guarding Hell. In 74:31 it is mentioned that this number will give the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) certainty, and also increase faith in the believers Muslims), and those who have diseases in their hearts and disbelieve will just shun it and say “Nothing was meant by that”. This verse comprises of 57 words or 19x3. The words in this chapter, prior to this verse are 95 or 19x5. If u count the letters all the way up to, but not including the word “nineteen” there are 361 letters or 19x19. Did all these 19s coincidently end up near the mention of the word nineteen? I don’t think so. Ch.96 consists of 19 verses and the first 5 verses are the first revealed to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as he meditated in the cave. They are made up of 19 words. If u count the letters in these 5 verses they equal 76 which is 19x4. The entire amount of letters in that chapter are 285 or 19x15. The 72nd Ch. also has 285 words and this Ch. ends saying that God has taken everything into account “numerically”. Some Ch. begin with disjointed letters which only God knows the meaning for. In Ch. 42 and 50 they begin with the Arabic letter “Qaf” which is equivalent to ”Q” in English. The letter Qaf is used in each of these Ch. 57 times each or 19x3. Also with these 2 Ch. (42 and 50) the number of the Ch. added to the number of verses in the Ch. equal 95 or 19x5. As said b4 Jesus (pbuh) and Adam (pbuh) are both mentioned 25 times each. They are said to be like each other for the first time in Ch. 3 which happens the 7th time each name mentioned. They are not mentioned together again until they are mentioned in the same verse in Ch.19 which is the 19th time Adam (pbuh) is mentioned in the Qur’an and the 19th time Jesus (pbuh) is mentioned in the Qur’an. If we count the verses from the first time they’re both mentioned together to the last time they’re both mentioned together, there are 1,957 verses or 19x103. If we count all of the verse numbers in which Jesus (pbuh) is mentioned and add them together u also get 1,957 or 19x103.
God also mentions the creation and stages of the embryo inside a mother's womb. With x-rays and today's technology, it shows that every stage mentioned in the Qur'an is precise to the "T".
So how do all of these miracles, first off come from a man, especially living in that time period with no microscopes, satellites, telescopes, computers etc.? These that I have shared with u are nowhere near the total amount of miracles of the entire Qur'an. These are only a few of the ones that we have blessed by God Almighty to understand and tell others about. So when God challenges mankind to come up with, not a book but just a single chapter, that does not only rhyme and give a religious message but also every letter in it will be preserved for all time, and hold some value to being part of an entire miracle, it is to put man in his appropriate place and make him recognize and understand that the best knowledge is with God alone and no creature of God can ever design such a marvel, never could and never will, and God knows this and that is why He put forward challenge. It can never be accomplished. For God alone is Most High, Supreme in Glory.