(January 10, 2016 at 7:38 pm)*Deidre* Wrote: The important thing that sometimes gets lost in these discussions, and news stories is that even though she ''voluntarily'' went into the shower with the guy, I'd like to believe that most guys (guys I know at least and on this site, for example) would not have raped her. The supposition that well, she shouldn't have been there in the first place, places an unfair mark on men in general, that if given the opportunity 'most' men would commit rape, and that is also a grossly erroneous view to take. People always have options, and when in doubt, do the right thing. She should have been more prudent, most definitely, but her lack of prudence, doesn't give someone the license to commit a crime.
If I'm in a shower, naked with a woman, and she kisses me, she's sending me a sexual signal.
Of course if she says no later I'll respect that. But we all should recognize that signals are also a form of communication.
It seems to me that her mistake was sending the wrong signal at the wrong time under the wrong circumstances, if she didn't want sex.
I think that's where the crosstalk in this thread is coming from.
