RE: Another raaaaaaaaaape!!!
January 12, 2016 at 1:21 pm
(This post was last modified: January 12, 2016 at 1:23 pm by Losty.)
(January 12, 2016 at 1:12 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote:(January 12, 2016 at 12:40 pm)Losty Wrote: Yea yea...I'm a horrible person for judging how she deals with her grief I know. But I can't help it. I want to say "everyone deals with grief differently and that's fine". But my mind refuses. Having been raped myself, this sort of thing seems like sensationalizing rape and it hits a raw nerve for me.
It could be all sorts of things. It's the internet - I treat most stories like this one with caution and simply try to avoid being judgmental. She could be f*cked in the head and/or a troll for all I know. But I disagree on principle, that you can't expect a man to stop f*cking. And I don't believe alcohol to be an excuse. Alcohol is not a magic potion - it doesn't make one a rapist, it just allows for temporary disregard for the consequences.
And I'll just reiterate my previous point - what if she did intend to go "all the way" and then during coitus she felt pain, anxiety, or panic, at which she changed her mind and wanted to stop - and the guy didn't. Would that be "par for the course"? Are we saying - if you decide to be intimate with drunk men, you should expect to be abused? Because I think I know a few drunks, who would object to that generalization. Or maybe we should criminalize "intimacy under influence" - since it's immoral and dangerous?
Personally - if I think most women are crazy to sexually engage with some (many) sexually aggressive guys I know, especially in situations, where intoxicants are involved. The whole concept of casual sex with strangers is fairly creepy and greatly disturbs me. It would be easy for me - as a misanthrope - to say that most people "deserve" what they get, for being retarded and doing all sorts of stuff I don't do. Like hitch-hiking - if you do THAT and get chopped up to pieces and buried in the forest - that's a fitting end, as far as I can tell. I mean - getting into a stranger's car, In the middle of nowhere? That IS crazy. And yet millions of people do it worldwide. And when one turns up chopped up - we don't usually say - "Yeah, well - he/she should have known better than to do THAT." And what about Uber? Damn - that's just asking for trouble...
But yeah - I try not to be judgmental...
After the first three sentences...I have no no idea why you're saying the rest to me. If you take the story at face value, the man is a rapist. I never implied otherwise.
When I said she was wrong too, I didn't mean she was at fault for being raped, she wasn't. I meant what she did was also wrong. And it has nothing to do with putting herself in danger. Imagine this story begins the same drunk guy sober girl taking a shower, but ends in "consensual" sex. You know what that'd make her in my mind? A rapist. It doesn't excuse what he did. It doesn't make her at fault for his actions. I'm only saying I think it's morally wrong to do anything sexual with a drunk person. (Obviously there are exceptions like if you're in a relationship or something like that, but even then it's an icky grey area)