Intelligent Design

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Exactly. If he created anything, it wasn't the universe by definition.

And if he has no time (or the equivalent) then he can't go from something not being created to something being created, because that's at least two distinct points on a "time line".

Otherwise, it's the old fallback of "well he's too complex to understand". Which is fine, but in that case, stop pretending you understand stuff about him.

I think it goes like this:

1) God exists
2) There is no evidence he exists
3) Therefor, he must "be" somewhere which is outside the scope of collecting evidence

The problem, of course, is with the initial assumption. This doesn't prove it, it just shows what stupid lengths you have to go to in order to hide God, and demonstrates you have no way yourself to know he is there anyway even if he was.

Also, "outside space and time" is about the exact opposite of "omnipresent". Which is it?