(January 15, 2016 at 10:17 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Also is this "thinking they will become king" a bad quality?(January 15, 2016 at 9:23 pm)Mothonis Wrote: Hi, its been awhile iam going to try to be more active in the future i forgot how important this forum is to me.Anyways i am going to talk about why i believe Sanders needs to win.
1.The change of the political landscape
Sanders victory will have profound impact on what kind of canidates we will be able to elect in the future.It will alow other grass-roots campaigns to have a real shot at a general election.
2.Previously apathetic citizens will start becoming more politically active.
This will also restore faith that the system can be fixed and help progressives push more legislation that previously would have been considered to "left-wing"
3.Sanders isnt bought and wont give up
We need a candidate who isnt going to comprise when it comes to major issues.We need major change sooner rather than later.Those of you who say its not possible just look at bush,everyone told him what he could and could not do and he ignored them and everything he wanted and Donald Trump is similar.
Could I have a hit off whatever you're smoking?
1. Nothing will change the political landscape. The problem with Sanders is virtually the same as the problem with Trump. They both stand there and say "I'm going to do this" and "I'm going to do that" and neither seems to understand that he is running for president, not "king." You don't walk in and tell the Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee what he is going to do. Trump, being a business criminal asshole, has probably never had that kind of opposition from what he perceives as his own side. Sanders has been in Congress long enough to know better.
2. You have far more faith in your fellow citizens than I do. The fuckers can't even be bothered voting in mid-term elections.
3. Almost irrelevant. Because as Obama learned you are dealing with a congress which is bought and will sell out at the drop of a hat. Remember that Obama threw in the towel on single-payer health insurance not because of the republicunts but because of a handful of conservative democrats who would not support it.
We have had, since 2010 a bunch of conservatard fuckheads who refuse to compromise and the result has been disaster. Like it or not, "compromise" is the basis of American government and we need much more of it... not less.
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It's honestly a great quality, this expectation alone is the reason why Trump is leading, possibly why Sanders is as well. It's this attitude they go around with that they expect to make a huge change. Why is that bad? Trump isn't a bad candidate because he expects too much, it's because of the content of what he expects. It shows confidence, which is everything. Yes, Sanders expectations may be far fetched, but really, is that bad? If I could vote, i'd throw my eggs in the basket for a person who promises the most positive change, because promise in itself isn't bad, a person who thinks they can change the most usually ends up changing the most.
It's similar to an old native american proverb I like to believe:
"He who thinks he can, and he who thinks he can't are both usually right."
Steve Jobs:
"Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do."
Why do you think Donald Trump is winning? It's not solely because all of these people are racist bigoted buffoons, it's because Donald promises the most change, and the promises he makes people agree with. However, he's not a lunatic, he's shooting for the stars because he knows people are going to believe he will make it there. A large amount of people aren't even in favor of his policies, they simply want him to win because they know if he did there will be changes. The last thing America wants is for an establishment puppet to win, who won't bring anything new to the table.
Granted, DT's supporters are clearly moronic for thinking any of the things he's promising are positive for america, that doesn't change the fact that if Ben Carson had the exact same policy proposals, ideas, and promises as Trump, he'd never reach the height that Donald has, simply because he wouldn't be confident, and verbal about them. That's the deciding difference. The American people can tell, on either side, that both Sanders and Trump really, truly, think they can make a change, and I can't stress how important that factor is, in the effort to actually making a change.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?
Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours.
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