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Why i believe Sanders needs to win
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RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win
(January 16, 2016 at 2:19 am)Minimalist Wrote: Yeah...we can have 8 more years like the last 8, I guess.

Probably get that anyway.
What do you suggest? We elect the person that seems to be out to change the least? What the fuck logic is that? Every person that's ever voted for the reason of wanting change has only voted for someone whom they felt gave the most hope for change. The fact that congress doesn't agree with him is the very fucking reason that people want someone to change that in the first place.

To compare Bernie Sanders to Obama is to undermine the difference in real world problems today, to undermine the variables involved, to undermine the million other factors that would make his presidency different than the previous, and to generalize an entire eight year presidency in to one fittingly minimalist idea that it was a bad presidency, and claim that from one misconstrued imaginary result of "bad" because of one reason in a sea of others being congress, that one result constitutes assuming the next president with the same generalized views for "change" never being specified is the exact same as Obama's, and will get a linear result based on one other example. This is the most irrational comparison and generalization I have ever heard, it is an ignorant and demonstrably false analogy based on imaginary assumptions and strong wording that has no basis. Forget a sea, there is a fucking Europa sized ginormous ocean full of variables, and attributes that make this situation entirely different from the last. How can you even begin to compare two people that don't even relatively have the same idea's, policies, aren't running for presidency in the same time period, or even dealing with remotely the same current worldly issues, and say that because of one constant factor and one made up subjectively generalized imaginary attribute of "Change", and "Congress" that the two in question will produce the same result of being rendered unable of accomplishing your subjective idea of "Change".

Don't think just because you have strong worded arguments the argument itself should be allowed to take on the attribute of the language in which you phrased it in. Bullshit wrapped up to look like a gaming console as a Christmas gift doesn't change the fact that it's not a gaming console, and is still bullshit.
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To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?

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Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Mothonis - January 15, 2016 at 9:23 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Chad32 - January 15, 2016 at 9:26 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by account_inactive - January 15, 2016 at 9:26 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Mothonis - January 15, 2016 at 10:03 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by account_inactive - January 15, 2016 at 10:05 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Aegon - January 15, 2016 at 10:06 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Justtristo - February 2, 2016 at 1:45 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 15, 2016 at 10:17 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Heat - January 15, 2016 at 10:56 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Heat - January 15, 2016 at 11:20 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Thumpalumpacus - January 16, 2016 at 3:28 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Mothonis - January 16, 2016 at 12:35 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Thumpalumpacus - January 15, 2016 at 10:27 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Heat - January 15, 2016 at 10:50 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by TheRealJoeFish - January 15, 2016 at 10:54 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 16, 2016 at 4:32 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Grandizer - January 16, 2016 at 4:40 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by SteelCurtain - January 15, 2016 at 10:58 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by SteelCurtain - January 15, 2016 at 11:41 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 16, 2016 at 12:00 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Heat - January 16, 2016 at 2:14 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 16, 2016 at 12:28 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 16, 2016 at 1:09 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Mothonis - January 16, 2016 at 1:33 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Thumpalumpacus - January 16, 2016 at 3:32 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 16, 2016 at 1:42 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 16, 2016 at 2:19 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Heat - January 16, 2016 at 3:57 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 16, 2016 at 6:08 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Whateverist - January 16, 2016 at 9:49 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 16, 2016 at 11:22 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Whateverist - January 16, 2016 at 11:32 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 16, 2016 at 11:44 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Whateverist - January 16, 2016 at 11:49 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 17, 2016 at 12:24 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 17, 2016 at 12:02 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 17, 2016 at 12:20 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by SteelCurtain - January 16, 2016 at 5:06 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Heat - January 16, 2016 at 6:22 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by SteelCurtain - January 16, 2016 at 6:56 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Whateverist - January 16, 2016 at 8:34 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by ApeNotKillApe - January 16, 2016 at 9:01 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by little_monkey - January 16, 2016 at 10:06 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 16, 2016 at 1:24 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Reforged - January 16, 2016 at 5:05 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by The Grand Nudger - January 16, 2016 at 5:10 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 16, 2016 at 11:26 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 16, 2016 at 11:29 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 16, 2016 at 11:34 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 17, 2016 at 12:29 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by account_inactive - January 17, 2016 at 12:38 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 17, 2016 at 1:10 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by account_inactive - January 17, 2016 at 2:35 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 17, 2016 at 10:55 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Thumpalumpacus - January 17, 2016 at 11:13 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 17, 2016 at 11:59 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Thumpalumpacus - January 17, 2016 at 12:46 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Crossless1 - January 17, 2016 at 11:22 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 17, 2016 at 11:51 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Crossless1 - January 17, 2016 at 7:05 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 23, 2016 at 11:51 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 17, 2016 at 12:48 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 17, 2016 at 1:11 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 17, 2016 at 11:28 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Whateverist - January 17, 2016 at 12:10 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 17, 2016 at 12:26 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Thumpalumpacus - January 17, 2016 at 3:19 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Crossless1 - January 17, 2016 at 10:07 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 17, 2016 at 12:03 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by The Grand Nudger - January 17, 2016 at 2:32 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Mothonis - January 17, 2016 at 3:28 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by account_inactive - January 17, 2016 at 3:44 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by The Grand Nudger - January 17, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 17, 2016 at 1:15 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by ApeNotKillApe - January 17, 2016 at 7:07 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Thumpalumpacus - January 17, 2016 at 8:12 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by CapnAwesome - January 23, 2016 at 11:25 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 1:15 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by CapnAwesome - January 24, 2016 at 3:58 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 24, 2016 at 1:22 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 4:02 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 24, 2016 at 5:13 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Grandizer - January 24, 2016 at 6:24 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 6:31 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Grandizer - January 24, 2016 at 6:46 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Brian37 - January 24, 2016 at 8:38 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 8:13 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 8:16 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 8:08 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 8:13 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 8:15 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 8:19 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 8:25 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 8:30 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 8:50 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Tiberius - January 24, 2016 at 9:52 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Thumpalumpacus - February 2, 2016 at 3:22 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Excited Penguin - February 2, 2016 at 3:27 am

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