(January 17, 2016 at 11:28 am)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:(January 17, 2016 at 1:11 am)Minimalist Wrote: Read the post above. Maybe you'll learn something.
I doubt it.
You go after the voter, bashing any who won't vote as "lazy", when the right to reject all of the fuckers and demand better candidates has been ignored. Yes, that was actually part of the national conversation a couple of decades ago, and people with your sort of attitude ignored it.
When you 'vote' for none of the above you actually have zero chance of actually electing none of the above. Instead a random clown will be elected and perhaps a more destructive one. By not voting you just show you're disaffected. So what? The 1% don't care how you feel about it they just want their candidate elected, the one you thought was just one of many bad choices. That works for them.
(January 17, 2016 at 11:28 am)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: You are now teaching Joe Sixpack Voter that his vote counts, but that what he wants doesn't matter, and that is just utterly shameful!
I'll level with you: I've not decided whether I will vote for Bernie, even if he does surge ahead of Hillary when the primaries come to my State, and for the same concerns which you voice. But if I choose to compromise my vote for one who can win, this will be my personal decision, and I won't be proud of it. When you teach young voters to vote anything other than their own interests or their conscience, you teach them to give up on both prematurely, which is why this should not be taught.
You are once more engaged with an opponent who isn't here. No one is suggesting that what you want doesn't matter. It is just that if you really hope to get as much of what you want as possible, you've got to be strategic.
Then there is also the need to avoid that which you don't want. The status quo is not a given. While you sulk about the poor quality of the candidates the vipers continue to dismantle still more of what you want but take for granted. Losing ground happens very easily compared to gaining new ground.
(January 17, 2016 at 11:28 am)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: If you want Candidate A in office, and you don't vote for Candidate A, then there will be no record that you wanted Candidate A. If the majority in your State want A, but vote to elect B, then the thugs and clowns under the dome will continue to behave as if you wanted B.
Leaving a clear record of the candidate with whom I felt the most affinity is a poor substitute for getting what I want, and no consolation for losing still more ground. Of course what you want matters but that is why you must be strategic and vigilant. The possibility of things getting still worse is very real.
