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Why i believe Sanders needs to win
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RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win
(January 17, 2016 at 12:10 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote:
(January 17, 2016 at 11:28 am)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: You go after the voter, bashing any who won't vote as "lazy", when the right to reject all of the fuckers and demand better candidates has been ignored. Yes, that was actually part of the national conversation a couple of decades ago, and people with your sort of attitude ignored it.

When you 'vote' for none of the above you actually have zero chance of actually electing none of the above.  Instead a random clown will be elected and perhaps a more destructive one.  By not voting you just show you're disaffected.  So what?  The 1% don't care how you feel about it they just want their candidate elected, the one you thought was just one of many bad choices.  That works for them.
That's right, the 1% don't care how you feel about it when you don't vote. But if a majority of those who go to the polls reject all candidates on the ballot when they have that option, then they can force a new election, with different candidates.
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(January 17, 2016 at 11:28 am)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: You are now teaching Joe Sixpack Voter that his vote counts, but that what he wants doesn't matter, and that is just utterly shameful!

I'll level with you: I've not decided whether I will vote for Bernie, even if he does surge ahead of Hillary when the primaries come to my State, and for the same concerns which you voice. But if I choose to compromise my vote for one who can win, this will be my personal decision, and I won't be proud of it. When you teach young voters to vote anything other than their own interests or their conscience, you teach them to give up on both prematurely, which is why this should not be taught.

You are once more engaged with an opponent who isn't here.  No one is suggesting that what you want doesn't matter.  It is just that if you really hope to get as much of what you want as possible, you've got to be strategic.  

Then there is also the need to avoid that which you don't want.  The status quo is not a given.  While you sulk about the poor quality of the candidates the vipers continue to dismantle still more of what you want but take for granted.  Losing ground happens very easily compared to gaining new ground.  

There's no denying any of this, but I still have to wonder, when I think about it, whether the compromises we make at the polls are worth the price of having our true voices heard. When you give up the right to put it on record that you want a true socialist candidate like Bernie, the record will forever say that you wanted who you voted for. Well, that's what the poll mongers do with voting data!
Mr. Hanky loves you!
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Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Mothonis - January 15, 2016 at 9:23 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Chad32 - January 15, 2016 at 9:26 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by account_inactive - January 15, 2016 at 9:26 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Mothonis - January 15, 2016 at 10:03 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by account_inactive - January 15, 2016 at 10:05 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Aegon - January 15, 2016 at 10:06 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Justtristo - February 2, 2016 at 1:45 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 15, 2016 at 10:17 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Heat - January 15, 2016 at 10:56 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Heat - January 15, 2016 at 11:20 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Thumpalumpacus - January 16, 2016 at 3:28 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Mothonis - January 16, 2016 at 12:35 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Thumpalumpacus - January 15, 2016 at 10:27 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Heat - January 15, 2016 at 10:50 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by TheRealJoeFish - January 15, 2016 at 10:54 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 16, 2016 at 4:32 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Grandizer - January 16, 2016 at 4:40 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by SteelCurtain - January 15, 2016 at 10:58 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by SteelCurtain - January 15, 2016 at 11:41 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 16, 2016 at 12:00 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Heat - January 16, 2016 at 2:14 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 16, 2016 at 12:28 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 16, 2016 at 1:09 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Mothonis - January 16, 2016 at 1:33 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Thumpalumpacus - January 16, 2016 at 3:32 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 16, 2016 at 1:42 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 16, 2016 at 2:19 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Heat - January 16, 2016 at 3:57 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 16, 2016 at 6:08 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Whateverist - January 16, 2016 at 9:49 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 16, 2016 at 11:22 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Whateverist - January 16, 2016 at 11:32 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 16, 2016 at 11:44 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Whateverist - January 16, 2016 at 11:49 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 17, 2016 at 12:24 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 17, 2016 at 12:02 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 17, 2016 at 12:20 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by SteelCurtain - January 16, 2016 at 5:06 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Heat - January 16, 2016 at 6:22 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by SteelCurtain - January 16, 2016 at 6:56 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Whateverist - January 16, 2016 at 8:34 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by ApeNotKillApe - January 16, 2016 at 9:01 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by little_monkey - January 16, 2016 at 10:06 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 16, 2016 at 1:24 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Reforged - January 16, 2016 at 5:05 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by The Grand Nudger - January 16, 2016 at 5:10 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 16, 2016 at 11:26 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 16, 2016 at 11:29 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 16, 2016 at 11:34 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 17, 2016 at 12:29 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by account_inactive - January 17, 2016 at 12:38 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 17, 2016 at 1:10 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by account_inactive - January 17, 2016 at 2:35 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 17, 2016 at 10:55 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Thumpalumpacus - January 17, 2016 at 11:13 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 17, 2016 at 11:59 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Thumpalumpacus - January 17, 2016 at 12:46 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Crossless1 - January 17, 2016 at 11:22 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 17, 2016 at 11:51 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Crossless1 - January 17, 2016 at 7:05 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 23, 2016 at 11:51 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 17, 2016 at 12:48 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 17, 2016 at 1:11 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 17, 2016 at 11:28 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Whateverist - January 17, 2016 at 12:10 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 17, 2016 at 12:26 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Thumpalumpacus - January 17, 2016 at 3:19 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Crossless1 - January 17, 2016 at 10:07 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 17, 2016 at 12:03 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by The Grand Nudger - January 17, 2016 at 2:32 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Mothonis - January 17, 2016 at 3:28 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by account_inactive - January 17, 2016 at 3:44 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by The Grand Nudger - January 17, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 17, 2016 at 1:15 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by ApeNotKillApe - January 17, 2016 at 7:07 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Thumpalumpacus - January 17, 2016 at 8:12 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by CapnAwesome - January 23, 2016 at 11:25 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 1:15 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by CapnAwesome - January 24, 2016 at 3:58 pm
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Minimalist - January 24, 2016 at 1:22 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 4:02 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 24, 2016 at 5:13 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Grandizer - January 24, 2016 at 6:24 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 6:31 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Grandizer - January 24, 2016 at 6:46 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Brian37 - January 24, 2016 at 8:38 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 8:13 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 8:16 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 8:08 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 8:13 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 8:15 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 8:19 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by account_inactive - January 24, 2016 at 8:25 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Whateverist - January 24, 2016 at 8:30 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 8:50 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Tiberius - January 24, 2016 at 9:52 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Thumpalumpacus - February 2, 2016 at 3:22 am
RE: Why i believe Sanders needs to win - by Excited Penguin - February 2, 2016 at 3:27 am

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