Quote:For a long while Arabs were starting to get stripped from Islam & incline more & more towards nationalism. You gotta remember those 50s & 60s days when it was rare to see city girls wearing "Hijab" in Cairo, Beirut and most of the Arab capitals.Do you view that as a good thing or a bad thing? I couldn't tell.
I was born after the Lebanese civil war(technically during, but I wasn't old enough to know anything) But reading about the old days, the unity between Syria and Egypt, seeing photos of a homogeneous Arab society, no veils, no nikabs, just women walking around studying going about their day. I think that is what we need again...
And don't get me wrong, people can still be Muslims, if we can go about daily life without prejudice and without special treatment (force closing bars in certain areas and intimidating people because they are different or because they want to eat during Ramadan)
Quote:What, are Arabs not worthy of western standard or something ? We're all humans anyhow, I view westerners as my family & friends, never did I consider them strangers. That's why I guess their standard of living is what all of us should live under, and what all of us should get as modern humans.You misunderstood my point. All I was saying was that the middle east is bad, but not as bad as they think it is. It's a beautiful weather, some areas are calm, we don't have fiber optics internet but we don't really need it. As a refugee just wanting to wait out for a couple of years(2 to 5 years) to go back home it should be enough.
And I am sick of hearing justifications for poor behavior and sick of hearing about how it is never our fault shit goes wrong. While yes, foreign powers play their roles, but foreign powers can only throw fuel on an already burning fire, they cannot start a fire from nothing. For example, no matter how many billions of dollars you throw, you probably won't succeed at getting the Israelis to kill one another, or the Canadians to kill one another, the Americans... maybe, in fact some are already doing it for free
Point is, while it is not all our fault, we do hold some responsibility, and it is time to start taking some kind of action to solve our problems, and we can begin with small things.
How much effort was put into bringing sunnis and shiites together and reconcile them? It can be done with simple steps like declare the Ramadan holiday at the same day(usually one waits for the other to declare and pushes theirs a week) how much effort is being put by the Muslims to bring respect to the Christians? etc... We go one learning nothing. My criticism is often overly harsh yes and I apologize, truly, I am flat out wrong about some things, but what I have is not hate, it's just too much frustration over seeing the same shit repeated over and over with 0 lessons learned and nothing done to fix things...
