(January 18, 2016 at 3:56 am)Gormo Wrote:(January 14, 2016 at 6:21 pm)Pandæmonium Wrote: There's a lot of insanity on both sides on this discussion. I don't know when people left reasonableness and logic at the door but I have must have missed the memo.
What concerns me is that I'm seeing this in the grand scheme of things.
It's like you either have someone like Obama, Merkel, or Trump.
Somebody who is unable to see or say anything negative (not to mention factual) about Islam, or someone at the other extreme may be hesitant to accept that there are families who genuinely need help, and reasonably well adjusted people who should be willing to fit in.
It's already happening in Europe too, the insanity of blind immigration policies have given the right wingers a ton of momentum. The left wing/politically correct/too liberal for anyone's good have really fucked things up. Who could have guessed the right wingers might turn out to be the popular choice in Europe over such a short period of time.
Forcing down penalties can save your life. That what God taught in the Quran, though. Not acknowledging bigot groups because you simply have "mutual interests" with them, is one recipe for disasters.
It will reflect a reaction that we see today : the far right.
The far right is just angry. Just angry, no other gestures can be concluded from it. Another version from ISIS. The other face of the same fucking filthy coin.
People ask me : why do you criticize the west only ?
Heck; Muslims have salafies and radicals too !
The right's madness though is what's going to change Europe forever. It will change the so-called golden standard that the Schengen region had post WW2.
Nations don't die, until its own people begin to tear their homeland bleeding it from the inside.
Whoever buys the lies of the right, or the lies of modern Muslim Sunni/Shia extremists, has sold his soul to the abyss.
And the liberal sect is also too drenched in financial corruption and bribery, bringing in the worst types of Muslims into the country, as if they were inviting them to commit terrorism; so when it's time to invade their countries and rob their oil, an excuse will be so ready : "these people are bad !!! you already saw the immigrants"
Allowing people from warfare stained regions in, then whine about the violence..What do you expect ?
Violence that some western countries too, are drenched in to the bone.
And atop of all these cogs, smashing the society into a goo, superpowers sit with atomic weapons aimed at each other. The economy though, can crack by wind; it doesn't even need explosives
