RE: Is Quran the proof of God?
January 18, 2016 at 4:56 pm
(This post was last modified: January 18, 2016 at 5:01 pm by Sheed1980.)
(January 18, 2016 at 12:32 pm)Constable Dorfl Wrote:I'm not sure if I understand ur question my friend. So what does it say. What does what say?(January 18, 2016 at 6:51 am)Sheed1980 Wrote: Homosexuality is forbidden in the sight of Allah. This is why He destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorah, told both in the Bible and Qur'an. Homosexuality is a sin. Just as murder, robbery, and all other sins that infest our Earth today and of times in the past. What people don't realize is God does not cause sin to happen. He gives us humans free will and we are the ones that sin. God sent us prophets and scriptures which have laws and regulations for us to model our lives after. But u get, for example, a powerful country like the USA which tells us in our Constitution that mankind is free to do as they will as long as abiding by laws. Homosexuality is an act against God and nature. It is unnatural. But because the U.S Constitution says ur free to do so, it's ok. So a man-made law in 1776 replaced the law of God since the beginning of time. So if politicians today spoke against homosexuality imagine how many votes they would lose for discrimination in a country where homosexuality is said to be okay. Bottom line. Like all other sins Allah doesn't cause them but gives us the free will to follow or disobey His command set for us in scriptures through His prophets, and He will judge us all on what we do and in the Hereafter we will be punished or forgiven and rewarded for our actions in this life
If allah was real and powerful and hated homosexual acts, then he would have made it so I run a mile I see another man's tonker (I'm not gay, but neither am I repulsed by gay men or the male form). So what does it say that we have homosexual acts? Either your allah is as real as the Stay Pufft Marshmallow Man or as powerful as a marshmallow.
(January 18, 2016 at 11:04 am)mr_j936 Wrote:My point was that sex is for pleasure and reproduction. So for whatever reason and whatever age it is being done, it is morally correct when 2 people of the opposite gender intimate and immoral when 2 of the same gender, whether male or female intimate.(January 18, 2016 at 10:14 am)Sheed1980 Wrote: First off if a woman can't have children it is still morally correct for a man to have intercourse with her. Ur right the penis can go in different places but a certain place especially with a member of the same sex is immoral. Those are the key words moral and immoral. It doesn't matter to me what other people do with their lives. Islam teaches us that every soul shall be judged by God on what that soul does or doesn't do and not another souls actions. So everybody should let people live their lives and they live their own
I was merely following your logic, you said that the point of reproduction is to have children, and because a man having sex with a man does not result in pregnancy, it is then wrong. Therefore I am extending that same logic to say old people sex is also wrong. You can't pick and choose when the argument will work and when it won't.
Quote:Mrj: Yeah, Christians just annoy homosexuals rather than kill them, but it would be different if there wasn't secular law in charge. In a Christian theocracy, I'd expect just as much savagery as you see in an Islam one.
Yeah I really doubt it. Americans aside(seriously I think american Christians are nuts and not representative of Christianity) They're not killing gays in Armenia, they're not killing gays in the Vatican(they are in mecca) They are not killing gays in Israel, even that bloody butcher the ex prime minister Ehud Olmert is proud of is homosexual daughter etc...
Don't equate Muslims to Christians it really is not the same at all. Yes Christianity had a barbaric age in Europe, but Islam is having a barbaric age everywhere and on several levels of society from the ruling class to the angry mobs...