Is Quran the proof of God?

[Sheed1980]

I think u totally miss my point. I'm not judging u or anyone else. My job as a Muslim is not to say ur doing wrong my job is to tell u what I believe in and how things will come. I am not trying to change u or anyone else. I can't change u or anyone else. What ur judged on by God won't have a thing to do with me and vice versa. So as I said we have to speak our beliefs as Muslims but what everyone does or doesn't do is their own business

You don't have a job any more than a Christian or Jew or Hindu or atheist. You have a position you like. Our first "job" as a species is to our common good, not our labels. Outside that you are certainly welcome to make any claim you want, and others are legally entitled to respond to the claim through debate, blasphemy and even ridicule. If a claim is credible, it is worthy of scrutiny and can withstand blasphemy. If you need censorship to protect the claim, it is a good sign it is only being protected because of the ego of the person holding it.

QUOTE "Muslims but what everyone does or doesn't do is their own business"

Awesome attitude, I agree. Now maybe you are on board with diversity, but the East is still not up with modern secular law. I would advise Muslims as a whole, instead of always assuming bigotry, yes there is against Muslims, but blasphemy is not always bigotry. I am completely on board with telling assholes like Trump and the xenophobic GOP to shut the fuck up.

But, just like the Bible, the Koran is used as a weapon, and does contain words that are used to justify harm to others. I wish there was a polite way to say that, but there simply is not. ALL holy books must be treated like the weapons they are. For whatever good people look for in them to justify compassion, others use those very same books to justify cruelty.

I will defend say, the likes of Malala, or Muslim Congressman Keith Ellison. No, that doesn't make their god real anymore than defending Martin Luther King Jr makes Jesus the one true son of the god of Abraham. I defend my fellow human because they are a fellow human, not because I agree with every single claim an individual may make.

Humans in general, both left and right politically, far too often confuse rights, with the separate issue of the ability to demonstrate the credibility of any given claim on any subject. Human rights are a given, as they should be. But I'd be just as annoyed if my mom, for example, kept repeating "The New York Yankees won the Superbowl". I love my mom, and even in reality we don't agree on everything, I still love her regardless. 

My position on humans is that they are individuals first. I hate what religion does to politics, be it Sunni vs Shiite, Catholic vs Protestant, Jew vs Muslim, and even in the states, Conservative Christianity vs Liberal Christianity. I have a duty as a fellow human to allow you to make whatever claim you want, but I do not have a duty to remain silent and allow any claim on any subject, even outside religion, to remain unchallenged.

Well I agree with u that humans should do good deeds. This is why Allah specifically tells us over and over again in the Qur'an we must believe and do righteous deeds to succeed. U can't believe in God but be the meanest person or a tyrant to other people. Just as well u can't be the nicest most polite lovable person in the world but be a disbeliever. If u can point out to me where n the Qur'an it is used as a weapon as u say, I can hopefully give u some clarity on it

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That's a beautiful vision to have but I have a question. If ur life is over after u die and u don't believe in any Hereafter how will possibly look back on ur life?

I will look back on my life while my brain is still able to function, in other words while I am alive

OK. I got ya now 

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