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The Immorality of God - The Canaanites
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RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites
(January 22, 2016 at 1:11 pm)Cecelia Wrote: 1. You're acting as though we cannot judge the morality of fictional characters.  "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way."

As I noted in the OP, if God is a fictional character, then you can judge all you want...for whatever that is worth. But if you want to attempt to judge God and demand explanations from believers, then you should be willing to listen to what they say in reply.

(January 22, 2016 at 1:11 pm)Cecelia Wrote: 2. If God was willing to destroy the Cananites to 'prevent evil', and flood the world to 'prevent evil', why didn't he stop the Holocaust?  Sudden decline in birth rates of German people, including the Hitler family would have done wonders.  You don't get to have it both ways.  You can't say "Well God did prevent evil, but you all see it as Evil!" and then not answer why he stopped preventing evil as soon as reliable methods of mass communication became available.

Here you are equating the evil of the Holocaust with the evil of the Canaanites or of Sodom? Are you in a position to do that? Are you God, or do you know all that God knows about these various events?

The Nazis implemented their "final solution" over about a ten-year period. The Canaanites practiced their various evils for 400 years. The Canaanites were wiped out by the Israelite army; the Nazis were destroyed by the Allied forces. Interesting parallel, eh?

Further, is it a mere coincidence that within a few years of the end of the Second World War, the United Nations declared that Israel was to be a sovereign nation? Did the blood of these martyrs water the seeds of that declaration?

(January 22, 2016 at 1:11 pm)Cecelia Wrote: 3. You're focusing on a single event, and ignoring all the other immoral acts that God is claimed to have done.

Yes, I am. And for good reason.

When debating issues like this, it is ESSENTIAL to focus on one point at a time. Otherwise, the discussion gets completely out of control quickly.

For example, I can now ask you: Based on the arguments presented in the OP, is it possible that God was NOT acting immorally but with very good reason when He judged and destroyed the Canaanites by means of the Israelites?

(January 22, 2016 at 1:11 pm)Cecelia Wrote: Being consistent doesn't equal being moral.

Is it inconsistent for a loving God to act with perfect justice when punishing a people who are evil and refuse correction?
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The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 22, 2016 at 12:59 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by drfuzzy - January 22, 2016 at 1:03 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Cecelia - January 22, 2016 at 1:11 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 22, 2016 at 1:53 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 22, 2016 at 2:03 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 22, 2016 at 3:23 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Crossless1 - January 22, 2016 at 1:15 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 22, 2016 at 2:06 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Crossless1 - January 22, 2016 at 2:21 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 22, 2016 at 3:05 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Chad32 - January 22, 2016 at 1:26 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 22, 2016 at 2:14 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by drfuzzy - January 22, 2016 at 2:30 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 22, 2016 at 3:07 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by drfuzzy - January 22, 2016 at 4:58 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 1:59 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Chad32 - January 22, 2016 at 2:31 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 22, 2016 at 3:21 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Chad32 - January 22, 2016 at 3:45 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 1:03 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Esquilax - January 23, 2016 at 2:03 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 3:21 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Esquilax - January 23, 2016 at 3:34 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Chad32 - January 23, 2016 at 2:04 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Whateverist - January 22, 2016 at 1:38 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 22, 2016 at 2:43 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Whateverist - January 22, 2016 at 6:49 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 2:21 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Angrboda - January 23, 2016 at 2:28 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 3:38 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Angrboda - January 23, 2016 at 4:26 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Whateverist - January 23, 2016 at 2:35 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Esquilax - January 23, 2016 at 2:46 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 3:56 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Esquilax - January 23, 2016 at 4:46 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by drfuzzy - January 23, 2016 at 4:45 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Whateverist - January 22, 2016 at 2:07 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 22, 2016 at 2:45 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Cecelia - January 22, 2016 at 2:19 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 22, 2016 at 3:02 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by brewer - January 22, 2016 at 2:46 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Cecelia - January 22, 2016 at 3:14 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 22, 2016 at 3:28 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Cato - January 22, 2016 at 4:42 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 1:58 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Cato - January 23, 2016 at 3:50 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by robvalue - January 22, 2016 at 3:46 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 1:25 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by brewer - January 23, 2016 at 2:11 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 3:25 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by brewer - January 23, 2016 at 3:28 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by drfuzzy - January 23, 2016 at 5:07 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Cecelia - January 22, 2016 at 3:53 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Angrboda - January 22, 2016 at 4:07 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 1:28 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Esquilax - January 22, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Minimalist - January 22, 2016 at 4:20 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Grandizer - January 22, 2016 at 7:06 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 2:53 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Esquilax - January 23, 2016 at 3:24 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 4:01 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by brewer - January 22, 2016 at 7:41 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Crossless1 - January 23, 2016 at 11:45 am
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 3:15 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Crossless1 - January 23, 2016 at 3:25 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 2:58 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by brewer - January 23, 2016 at 3:12 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 3:57 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by brewer - January 23, 2016 at 4:02 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Whateverist - January 23, 2016 at 7:54 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Minimalist - January 22, 2016 at 8:48 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 3:11 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by drfuzzy - January 23, 2016 at 1:25 am
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 23, 2016 at 4:32 am
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 3:12 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by drfuzzy - January 23, 2016 at 4:48 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 23, 2016 at 4:31 am
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 3:13 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by robvalue - January 23, 2016 at 1:31 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 3:18 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by robvalue - January 23, 2016 at 3:44 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Minimalist - January 23, 2016 at 2:06 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Minimalist - January 23, 2016 at 2:18 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by robvalue - January 23, 2016 at 2:22 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 3:29 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Minimalist - January 23, 2016 at 2:45 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 3:40 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Minimalist - January 23, 2016 at 7:52 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by athrock - January 23, 2016 at 3:41 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by robvalue - January 23, 2016 at 3:52 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Cecelia - January 23, 2016 at 3:54 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Cecelia - January 23, 2016 at 7:53 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by robvalue - January 24, 2016 at 3:17 am
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Esquilax - January 24, 2016 at 12:11 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Brian37 - January 24, 2016 at 5:17 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Brian37 - January 24, 2016 at 5:19 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Minimalist - January 24, 2016 at 5:19 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Brian37 - January 24, 2016 at 5:33 pm
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 26, 2016 at 4:11 am
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by robvalue - January 26, 2016 at 3:25 am
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by robvalue - January 26, 2016 at 4:33 am
RE: The Immorality of God - The Canaanites - by DarkHorse - January 26, 2016 at 8:11 am

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