RE: The Immorality of God - Slavery in the Old Testament
January 24, 2016 at 11:32 pm
(This post was last modified: January 24, 2016 at 11:36 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(January 24, 2016 at 11:14 pm)athrock Wrote:(January 24, 2016 at 10:37 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: You've ignored the point that a choice made under duress is not "free".
You've ignored the point that if your god is perfect, then by definition so should be his revelation ... and creations such as students of his morality, for that matter.
You've ignored the point that a timeless objective morality should not look any different from any historical vantage.
Until you address those objections, your "argument" -- if I may dignify it as such -- is vapid. Not to mention that said "argument" is merely a set of unfounded assertions.
Over to you.
Not intentionally. Promise. I'm a bit peeved at a few other posters, but not you. So let's continue.![]()
"You've ignored the point that a choice made under duress is not "free"."
I agree. Where is our conflict?
"You've ignored the point that if your god is perfect, then by definition so should be his revelation ... and creations such as students of his morality, for that matter."
God's revelation IS perfect, but that doesn't mean that He gives it to us all at once, does it?
"You've ignored the point that a timeless objective morality should not look any different from any historical vantage."
I don't play the guitar, but I'll stick with guitar analogies - at least until they completely fail me.![]()
As a teacher, you COULD give your student a difficult song to play...let's take one of the classics like "Free Bird" or "Stairway to Heaven"...by simply handing him the sheet music and wishing him well. Or, you could give him the chords, the riffs, whatever, a little at a time until he had all the skills in place to play the song. And the whole time when he's simply practicing chord changes without really knowing why you're having him practice them, the Song Remains the Same. (see what I did there?)
THEN you give him the sheet music, and say, "Play this." If you've put the pieces in place first, playing the solos should be easy with a little practice.
Does this help?
I will address this post when I'm home on my computer. Needless to say, the deconstruction will be too long to issue it comfortably from my phone.
Note, though, that comparing a Perfect Teacher who Created the student is still unjustified, and will not be entertained any further. If your points require such slipshod examples for support, it might be better for you to reconsider your position. You're defending the indefensible, and shooting blanks in so doing.