RE: Cultural Appropriation
January 25, 2016 at 3:07 am
(This post was last modified: January 25, 2016 at 3:10 am by Lemonvariable72.)
(January 25, 2016 at 12:23 am)Aegon Wrote: EDIT: FUCK this website hates me. This is freaking out. Now the eighth page "does not exist" and it threw off my formatting...not to mention I've had to resubmit this five times for it to work.
Lemonvariable72 Wrote:They why do they need you to stand and take offense on their behalf? Isn't that belittling in and of it self? You know I have seen a few people speak against native Halloween costumes, but I don't recall any of those speaking being native? Is it cultural appropriation if I dress up as the pope? Why is it offensive that I enjoy aspects of other cultures? How do we determine what is and is not cultural appropriation?
Why should I have to be black to point out something racist against blacks (as an example)? As for the natives: white people will listen to other white people before they listen to minority groups. Mostly because a person wearing blackface probably knows it's offensive to a black person, but it would be other white people who would not only condone the blackface but possible approve of it and find humor in it. Having the people you look to "impress" say that it isn't okay would be the more powerful message in the end. But it's not like native peoples today are silent on the subject. Hell, this isn't even a recent thing. Well-known native scholars like Charles Eastman and Arthur C. Parker spoke on the issue and the idea that society needs to move away from the stereotypical image of American Indians as early as the beginning of the 20th century. And what do you mean "why is it offensive that I enjoy aspects of other cultures"? Are we still talking about the examples I used? Reread the post you quoted and tell me how you could construed that as a person innocently enjoying another culture. It's one thing to listen to jazz music made by black artists in the earlier part of the 20th century. It's another to dress up in a racist costume. Why do I have to explain that?
How do we determine what is and is not cultural appropriation? How is it different than any other offensive form of discrimination? Look at something you think might be cultural appropriation. Does it follow the definition of "perpetuating a cultural stereotype that is offensive to the members of that culture and is harmful to the overall image of the culture today"? Then congrats, you spotted it! It's no different than determining what is or is not racist. This is not a problem with the concept.
So now you get to pick for other cultures what is and isn't a offensive stereotype? What about the intent of the portrayer? What if I dress up as little Wayne or any black rapper because I relate with them and there music? Why do you think that you can't relate because they're a different race, isn't that racist in and of itself? Because someone is white they can't feel oppressed? Do you read what you write here? Its so faux progressive and divisive.
Edit: oh BTW your inference that I'm racist because I'm white and white people don't listen to natives, is racist. So noted.
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