(January 25, 2016 at 8:46 am)athrock Wrote:(January 24, 2016 at 11:31 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: That is not the point, the point is I cant come to conclusions on what is right or wrong by my own experience because according to you god has already programmed me, that is not free will.
Incorrect.
But first, have you ever consciously done something that you knew you should not do but you chose to do it anyway?
Taken a parking place when someone else had their turn signal on first? Glanced at another student's test paper? Snapped at a family member when you had a bad day at work or school? Failed to deliver on a promise to a friend?
My question is, when you do these things that you know are wrong...without anyone telling you...where does that judgment of right and wrong come from?
That voice of conscience which we all have is an example of the Natural Law that God has "programmed" us with. And we are free to obey or disobey that internal voice.
"These, then, are the two points I wanted to make. First, that human beings, all over the earth, have this curious idea that they ought to behave in a certain way, and cannot really get rid of it. Secondly, that they do not in fact behave in that way. They know the Law of Nature; they break it. These two facts are the foundation of all clear thinking about ourselves and the universe we live in." -C.S. Lewis
Your not addressing my point, I know you can do something you think is immoral, my point AGAIN is that you did not arrive at the conclusion of your actions being right or wrong by your own free will, according to you god has made that determination for us.
