RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded!
January 27, 2016 at 6:55 am
(This post was last modified: January 27, 2016 at 7:07 am by robvalue.)
I appreciate you being a little less serious, but I still can't understand half of what you're saying.
Are you telling me their translation of Surah 1 was incorrect? What should it say?
I'm not basing my opinions on their opinions, I'm basing them on what the Quran says. And unless you're saying they are misquoting it, then that's perfectly justified. The fact that I get some laughs along the way instead of being bored to tears is a bonus.
I have no idea what you're talking about with Marilyn Manson, sorry.
Who's a bully exactly? I can't follow you. Sure, they make some stereotype jokes. Big deal. They're not inciting violence, nor do they mean half of what they say. They are jokes, they are making fun of the people who do hold such stereotypes.
Are you serious with this? Really? Please tell me this was a joke. The Quran is filthy and disgusting, but it's OK, because everything is! No. It's not OK at all. It's not OK our countries are how they are, and it's not OK that the Quran is how it is. You can't excuse a supposed benevolent being from torturing things forever by erroneous analogies with what humans do. Especially since Surah 1 makes it clear he chooses exactly who he is going to torture. Really, what is the point of this book anyway, if Allah has already decided everything that is going to happen in advance? Unless Allah is actually just a human, after all. You see your own book is horrible but you worship it anyway. And again the analogy does not work, because I don't worship governments. I don't praise them if they make horrific decisions or threaten people. And I don't have the power to make it all better, like Allah does but refuses to.
Coming back to the "joke" at 15:38, if you really thought they were serious, the implications are far worse:
- They were doing a joke about what it would be like if the Quran was true about non-believers
- You were surprised and disgusted to learn the Quran might be true about something
- You were shocked that this particular piece of vile, divisive propaganda turned out to be something real and not just an excuse to justify any action taken against non-believers by making them out to be lesser
- You are sick to your stomach that Allah created people, decided they would be non-believers (as made explicit in Surah 1), decided they would behave in this two faced way, and would then write about it so that people could know how bad this part of his creation is
See, I've only witnessed the first couple of bits in the Quran, and already the religion is falling into place for me. You even admit the book is horrific, so really, I'm not telling you anything new here. Why you want to worship a disgusting monster is what puzzles me. I know (as far as it's possible to know anything) that there is no Allah, but the fact that you think it's real, and still choose to follow it, is really bizarre to me.
Are you telling me their translation of Surah 1 was incorrect? What should it say?
I'm not basing my opinions on their opinions, I'm basing them on what the Quran says. And unless you're saying they are misquoting it, then that's perfectly justified. The fact that I get some laughs along the way instead of being bored to tears is a bonus.
I have no idea what you're talking about with Marilyn Manson, sorry.
Who's a bully exactly? I can't follow you. Sure, they make some stereotype jokes. Big deal. They're not inciting violence, nor do they mean half of what they say. They are jokes, they are making fun of the people who do hold such stereotypes.
Quote:Yeah. So the Quran is so violent, it threatens those who disobey its constitution with hellfire !!
But isn't that what every country constitution does ? putting a set of penalties over certain actions; that if committed, the committer gets tortured ? with the highest penalty of all : full-scale warfare ?
Are you serious with this? Really? Please tell me this was a joke. The Quran is filthy and disgusting, but it's OK, because everything is! No. It's not OK at all. It's not OK our countries are how they are, and it's not OK that the Quran is how it is. You can't excuse a supposed benevolent being from torturing things forever by erroneous analogies with what humans do. Especially since Surah 1 makes it clear he chooses exactly who he is going to torture. Really, what is the point of this book anyway, if Allah has already decided everything that is going to happen in advance? Unless Allah is actually just a human, after all. You see your own book is horrible but you worship it anyway. And again the analogy does not work, because I don't worship governments. I don't praise them if they make horrific decisions or threaten people. And I don't have the power to make it all better, like Allah does but refuses to.
Coming back to the "joke" at 15:38, if you really thought they were serious, the implications are far worse:
- They were doing a joke about what it would be like if the Quran was true about non-believers
- You were surprised and disgusted to learn the Quran might be true about something
- You were shocked that this particular piece of vile, divisive propaganda turned out to be something real and not just an excuse to justify any action taken against non-believers by making them out to be lesser
- You are sick to your stomach that Allah created people, decided they would be non-believers (as made explicit in Surah 1), decided they would behave in this two faced way, and would then write about it so that people could know how bad this part of his creation is
See, I've only witnessed the first couple of bits in the Quran, and already the religion is falling into place for me. You even admit the book is horrific, so really, I'm not telling you anything new here. Why you want to worship a disgusting monster is what puzzles me. I know (as far as it's possible to know anything) that there is no Allah, but the fact that you think it's real, and still choose to follow it, is really bizarre to me.
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