What the bible says Hell is like

[Pat Mustard]

Well, the fact that the synoptic gospels giving him views on judaism which mirror phariseec thought is a big clue. Also is the fact that the latest, anti-semitic gospel of John which only really paints him as being against the pharisees. Actually it is far more logical to think of Yeshua as a cult leader of an anti-Rome pharisee or proto-sicarii group whose image got coopted into a new religion by others rather than a man believing himself son of god (the idea of god having a son was alien to all strands of judaism at that time, yet was prevalent amongst the Romano-Hellenistic cults).

What I said before about Pharisaic and Christian differences.

Plus- if Jesus was a revolutionary military leader, he left no evidence of it, and all of his followers went in a completely different direction. Also, he would have been a complete failure, and would have suffered the same fate as all the other wannabe revolutionaries of the period. There are quite a number of them we know about historically, and as soon as they got killed, their movement came to an immediate halt.

Judaism was comfortable with the idea of God having a presence on earth (burning bush, pillar of fire, Shekinah), and Jesus was seen as the latest in the list. 'Son of God' is more about role than biology in Judaism.

Yeah keep using post-hoc justifications to hold your irrational beliefs. First of all "christian tradition" didn't get going to the 3rd century. So to say that Jesus wasn't a pharisee because of christian tradition is at best disingenius.

On your dismissal of the 'failed revolutionary' explanation, which is one I didn't offfer in my post, many big things have grown out of initial failures. By your hypothesis Nazi Germany couldn't have happened, nor could the Irish Republic. Bith those entities grew out of failed violent revolutions (in Ireland's case at least five). But theory was to poist Yeshua as a cult leader within Judaic tradition who was co-opted posthumously by the likes of Saul of Tarsus who developed their own Jesus cult in opposition to his official successors.

And I note you don't even begin to touch my statement that the son of god was alien to judaism, probably because you don't have an answer for it.