(January 28, 2016 at 4:59 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote:Did the Sadducees even believe in the God character or were they atheists who just liked to wear fancy robes?(January 27, 2016 at 3:32 pm)Vicki Q Wrote: What I said before about Pharisaic and Christian differences.
Plus- if Jesus was a revolutionary military leader, he left no evidence of it, and all of his followers went in a completely different direction. Also, he would have been a complete failure, and would have suffered the same fate as all the other wannabe revolutionaries of the period. There are quite a number of them we know about historically, and as soon as they got killed, their movement came to an immediate halt.
Judaism was comfortable with the idea of God having a presence on earth (burning bush, pillar of fire, Shekinah), and Jesus was seen as the latest in the list. 'Son of God' is more about role than biology in Judaism.
Yeah keep using post-hoc justifications to hold your irrational beliefs. First of all "christian tradition" didn't get going to the 3rd century. So to say that Jesus wasn't a pharisee because of christian tradition is at best disingenius.
On your dismissal of the 'failed revolutionary' explanation, which is one I didn't offfer in my post, many big things have grown out of initial failures. By your hypothesis Nazi Germany couldn't have happened, nor could the Irish Republic. Bith those entities grew out of failed violent revolutions (in Ireland's case at least five). But theory was to poist Yeshua as a cult leader within Judaic tradition who was co-opted posthumously by the likes of Saul of Tarsus who developed their own Jesus cult in opposition to his official successors.
And I note you don't even begin to touch my statement that the son of god was alien to judaism, probably because you don't have an answer for it.
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