(March 15, 2009 at 6:18 am)athoughtfulman Wrote: All information from nothing? No, not necessarily. All I'm proposing is that we don't actually choose.And if we don't actually choose, what we do is unchangeable. It is set in stone. It was predetermined. So the name Issac Newton's parents chose for him was pre-determined (since we can have no choice), and Issac Newton's theories on gravity were also all pre-determined (since he had no freedom of choice to do other things).
If you can't see how determinism means information springing out of nothing (even if we ignore the physics side and focus on the philosophy side) then I can't explain it better than this.
It means that every single choice anyone has ever made in the history of humanity has been pre-determined, which means that all the consequences of those choices are pre-determined as well, which means every single human endeavour, thought, product, etc has been pre-determined since the first human evolved (or heck, since the first cell formed). Where did the information come from?