(March 15, 2009 at 8:40 am)Giff Wrote:(March 13, 2009 at 9:25 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote:(March 13, 2009 at 9:24 am)Giff Wrote: You really dont make sence.
What do you base you theory on that we don't have free will and that we don't chose our thoughts?
On the fact that I don't know of any evidence of free will. Or that we DO indeed choose our thoughts....do you?
Do you have any evidence that we don't chose our thoughts?
I don't need any. We first need evidence OF free will before there is to be any evidence against it.
You don't need to disprove something that is completely lacking in evidence. Just as we don't need to give evidence against the existence of God, Ghosts, the IPU, the FSM, The Celestial Teapot etc...because there is no evidence OF them in the first place....
Until I know of any positive evidence of free will. I will assume that it is illogical to need any negative evidence...any evidence AGAINST the existence of it. Where is the evidence OF it in the first place?
The default is no free will. Until there is evidence OF it or FOR it...I don't need evidence AGAINST it I think.
The burden of proof is on a positive claim first until its known to be provided with evidence. Once and if enough evidence is provided then you need evidence against that claim because the (positive) claim now has evidence and is no longer unsubstantiated, unsupported, etc. Right?
If there's evidence OF free will I'll gladly be willing to hear of it and do my best to assess it. If there isn't any then I shall assume for the time being that it probably doesn't exist (there isn't any, there is only freedom in general; rights, evitability).
EvF
