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'choosing' thoughts.
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RE: 'choosing' thoughts.
(March 16, 2009 at 8:57 am)Giff Wrote: The "we have no free will" theory is not based on anything but assupmtion and imagination. Which also religion is based on.

Agree with you Adrian, determinism is just a philosophy or closely reletated to religion.

The detminism is as likely as we all are living on small piece of dust in a giants hair.

Think about it. Free will is a philosophical idea as much as a lack of it is. Both sides of this argument lend their reasoning to philosophical arguments, therefore we cannot say which is actually true. If you want to treat it like religion, then the onus is on you to provide empirical evidence of free will, since you are making the positive claim. If you can do that, then I will either have to concede or provide evidence for a lack of free will. However, as far as I know, neither of us can do either.

If you just think about determinism, it seems like a religion. But if you follow out train of thought back and back, continually asking "why this choice", you'll arrive at determinism anyway. But why are you afraid of it?
"I think that God in creating Man somewhat overestimated his ability." Oscar Wilde
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'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 4, 2009 at 5:45 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Kyuuketsuki - March 4, 2009 at 6:11 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 4, 2009 at 6:19 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Tiberius - March 4, 2009 at 6:27 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 4, 2009 at 6:34 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Giff - March 5, 2009 at 8:21 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 5, 2009 at 8:33 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 10, 2009 at 10:20 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Kyuuketsuki - March 11, 2009 at 5:13 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 10, 2009 at 10:34 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 10, 2009 at 11:11 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 11, 2009 at 11:43 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Giff - March 12, 2009 at 9:27 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 12, 2009 at 10:44 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Giff - March 13, 2009 at 9:24 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 13, 2009 at 9:25 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Giff - March 15, 2009 at 8:40 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 15, 2009 at 7:36 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 13, 2009 at 9:31 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 13, 2009 at 5:24 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 13, 2009 at 11:06 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Tiberius - March 14, 2009 at 10:23 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 14, 2009 at 10:32 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 13, 2009 at 11:11 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 13, 2009 at 11:22 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 13, 2009 at 11:51 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 13, 2009 at 11:54 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 14, 2009 at 12:03 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 14, 2009 at 12:12 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 14, 2009 at 12:19 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 14, 2009 at 12:22 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 14, 2009 at 12:28 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 14, 2009 at 12:46 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 14, 2009 at 10:06 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 15, 2009 at 6:18 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Tiberius - March 15, 2009 at 2:53 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 15, 2009 at 8:50 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 16, 2009 at 2:01 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Tiberius - March 16, 2009 at 4:47 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 16, 2009 at 8:35 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Giff - March 16, 2009 at 8:57 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by padraic - March 17, 2009 at 5:22 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 16, 2009 at 7:00 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 16, 2009 at 7:11 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Giff - March 17, 2009 at 8:07 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 17, 2009 at 8:57 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Giff - March 17, 2009 at 11:09 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Kyuuketsuki - March 17, 2009 at 11:20 am
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 17, 2009 at 1:23 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 17, 2009 at 6:36 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by leo-rcc - March 17, 2009 at 6:57 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 17, 2009 at 7:05 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by leo-rcc - March 17, 2009 at 7:08 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 17, 2009 at 7:21 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by leo-rcc - March 17, 2009 at 7:30 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 17, 2009 at 7:39 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by leo-rcc - March 17, 2009 at 7:47 pm
RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 17, 2009 at 8:41 pm

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