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Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine
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Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine
I was doing a bit of reading on the subject of gay marriage, and I came across this short article by Joe Prever which was originally published at a blog called "Little Catholic Bubble". I hope it will provide the starting point for some interesting discussion.


I have heard a lot about how mean the Church is, and how bigoted, because she opposes gay marriage. How badly she misunderstands gay people, and how hostile she is towards us. My gut reaction to such things is: Are you freaking kidding me? Are we even talking about the same church?

When I go to Confession, I sometimes mention the fact that I'm gay, to give the priest some context. (And to spare him some confusion: Did you say 'locker room'? What were you doing in the women's...oh.) I've always gotten one of two responses: either compassion, encouragement, and admiration, because the celibate life is difficult and profoundly counter-cultural; or nothing at all, not even a ripple, as if I had confessed eating too much on Thanksgiving.

Of the two responses, my ego prefers the first -- who doesn't like thinking of themselves as some kind of hero? -- but the second might make more sense. Being gay doesn't mean I'm special or extraordinary. It just means that my life is not always easy. (Surprise!) And as my friend J. said when I told him recently about my homosexuality, "I guess if it wasn't that, it would have been something else." Meaning that nobody lives without a burden of one kind or another. As Rabbi Abraham Heschel said: "The man who has not suffered, what can he possibly know, anyway?"

Where are all these bigoted Catholics I keep hearing about? When I told my family a year ago, not one of them responded with anything but love and understanding. Nobody acted like I had a disease. Nobody started treating me differently or looking at me funny. The same is true of every one of the Catholic friends that I've told. They love me for who I am.

Actually, the only time I get shock or disgust or disbelief, the only time I've noticed people treating me differently after I tell them, is when I tell someone who supports the gay lifestyle. Celibacy?? You must be some kind of freak.

Hooray for tolerance of different viewpoints. I'm grateful to gay activists for some things -- making people people more aware of the prevalence of homosexuality, making homophobia less socially acceptable -- but they also make it more difficult for me to be understood, to be accepted for who I am and what I believe. If I want open-mindedness, acceptance, and understanding, I look to Catholics.

Is it hard to be gay and Catholic? Yes, because like everybody, I sometimes want things that are not good for me. The Church doesn't let me have those things, not because she's mean, but because she's a good mother. If my son or daughter wanted to eat sand I'd tell them: that's not what eating is for; it won't nourish you; it will hurt you. Maybe my daughter has some kind of condition that makes her like sand better than food, but I still wouldn't let her eat it. Actually, if she was young or stubborn enough, I might not be able to reason with her -- I might just have to make a rule against eating sand. Even if she thought I was mean.

So the Church doesn't oppose gay marriage because it's wrong; she opposes it because it's impossible, just as impossible as living on sand. The Church believes, and I believe, in a universe that means something, and in a God who made the universe -- made men and women, designed sex and marriage from the ground up. In that universe, gay marriage doesn't make sense. It doesn't fit with the rest of the picture, and we're not about to throw out the rest of the picture.

If you don't believe in these things, if you believe that men and women and sex and marriage are pretty much whatever we say they are, then okay: we don't have much left to talk about. That's not the world I live in.

So, yes, it's hard to be gay and Catholic -- it's hard to be anything and Catholic -- because I don't always get to do what I want. Show me a religion where you always get to do what you want and I'll show you a pretty shabby, lazy religion. Something not worth living or dying for, or even getting up in the morning for. That might be the kind of world John Lennon wanted, but John Lennon was kind of an idiot.

Would I trade in my Catholicism for a worldview where I get to marry a man? Would I trade in the Eucharist and the Mass and the rest of it? Being a Catholic means believing in a God who literally waits in the chapel for me, hoping I'll stop by just for ten minutes so he can pour out love and healing on my heart. Which is worth more -- all this, or getting to have sex with who I want? I wish everybody, straight or gay, had as beautiful a life as I have.

I know this isn't a satisfactory answer. I don't think any words could be. I try to make my life a satisfactory answer, to this question and to others: What are people for? What is love, and what does it look like? How do we get past our own selfishness so we can love God and our neighbors and ourselves?

It's a work in progress.


Joe Prever previously blogged under the pseudonum Steve Gershom. His blog may be found here.
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RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Catholic_Lady - February 8, 2016 at 3:24 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Divinity - February 8, 2016 at 3:31 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Catholic_Lady - February 8, 2016 at 3:33 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 12:25 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Divinity - February 9, 2016 at 12:32 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by robvalue - February 9, 2016 at 3:35 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Catholic_Lady - February 9, 2016 at 10:26 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 1:40 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 12:21 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by The Grand Nudger - February 8, 2016 at 12:17 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Divinity - February 8, 2016 at 12:18 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 12:22 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by SofaKingHigh - February 9, 2016 at 12:27 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by The Grand Nudger - February 8, 2016 at 12:24 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by robvalue - February 8, 2016 at 12:27 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Catholic_Lady - February 8, 2016 at 3:31 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by The Grand Nudger - February 8, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Nihilist Virus - February 8, 2016 at 1:15 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Edwardo Piet - February 10, 2016 at 7:09 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Divinity - February 8, 2016 at 3:35 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Catholic_Lady - February 8, 2016 at 3:45 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Divinity - February 8, 2016 at 3:53 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by GUBU - February 9, 2016 at 9:47 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 12:38 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Mister Agenda - February 9, 2016 at 12:43 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 2:03 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Brian37 - February 9, 2016 at 2:23 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by KevinM1 - February 9, 2016 at 2:24 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 2:33 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by KevinM1 - February 9, 2016 at 2:35 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 2:38 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by KevinM1 - February 9, 2016 at 2:41 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 3:44 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Brian37 - February 9, 2016 at 2:47 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 3:54 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Mister Agenda - February 11, 2016 at 12:52 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Divinity - February 9, 2016 at 12:43 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Divinity - February 8, 2016 at 5:15 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 1:07 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Divinity - February 9, 2016 at 1:19 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 2:14 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Divinity - February 9, 2016 at 2:18 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 2:30 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Mister Agenda - February 11, 2016 at 12:05 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by GUBU - February 9, 2016 at 3:34 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by GUBU - February 9, 2016 at 4:47 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 4:52 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by GUBU - February 12, 2016 at 7:04 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Brian37 - February 8, 2016 at 5:19 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Brian37 - February 8, 2016 at 5:30 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by robvalue - February 9, 2016 at 10:40 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Catholic_Lady - February 9, 2016 at 10:43 am
Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by LadyForCamus - February 9, 2016 at 11:36 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 11:47 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Brian37 - February 9, 2016 at 11:55 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 1:51 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Brian37 - February 9, 2016 at 2:07 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 2:27 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Brian37 - February 9, 2016 at 2:32 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 2:37 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Brian37 - February 9, 2016 at 2:39 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Esquilax - February 9, 2016 at 11:37 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 11:51 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Esquilax - February 9, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 1:57 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by veoli - February 9, 2016 at 2:54 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by KevinM1 - February 9, 2016 at 2:56 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 4:12 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Esquilax - February 9, 2016 at 3:46 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Brian37 - February 9, 2016 at 1:45 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 2:15 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Mister Agenda - February 11, 2016 at 12:24 pm
Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by LadyForCamus - February 9, 2016 at 1:47 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Brian37 - February 9, 2016 at 1:53 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Esquilax - February 9, 2016 at 3:57 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 4:35 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Esquilax - February 10, 2016 at 11:33 pm
Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by LadyForCamus - February 9, 2016 at 1:50 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 2:18 pm
Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by LadyForCamus - February 9, 2016 at 1:59 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 2:20 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Brian37 - February 9, 2016 at 2:27 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 2:36 pm
Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by LadyForCamus - February 9, 2016 at 2:01 pm
Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by LadyForCamus - February 9, 2016 at 2:06 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 2:22 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Mister Agenda - February 11, 2016 at 12:37 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Regina - February 9, 2016 at 2:11 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by ApeNotKillApe - February 9, 2016 at 2:19 pm
Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by LadyForCamus - February 9, 2016 at 2:20 pm
Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by LadyForCamus - February 9, 2016 at 2:25 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 2:35 pm
Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by LadyForCamus - February 9, 2016 at 2:44 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 3:48 pm
Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by LadyForCamus - February 9, 2016 at 2:46 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 3:53 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by KevinM1 - February 9, 2016 at 2:50 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 4:08 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Mister Agenda - February 11, 2016 at 11:55 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by dyresand - February 9, 2016 at 3:31 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by dyresand - February 9, 2016 at 3:58 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Divinity - February 9, 2016 at 4:04 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 4:44 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2016 at 4:10 pm
Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by LadyForCamus - February 9, 2016 at 4:17 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 4:48 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Brian37 - February 9, 2016 at 5:14 pm
Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by LadyForCamus - February 9, 2016 at 4:37 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 4:51 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by drfuzzy - February 9, 2016 at 5:06 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Fidel_Castronaut - February 9, 2016 at 4:39 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by athrock - February 9, 2016 at 4:52 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Fidel_Castronaut - February 9, 2016 at 7:03 pm
Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by LadyForCamus - February 9, 2016 at 5:04 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Cecelia - February 10, 2016 at 12:55 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by robvalue - February 10, 2016 at 1:39 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Catholic_Lady - February 10, 2016 at 10:57 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by drfuzzy - February 10, 2016 at 12:24 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Brian37 - February 10, 2016 at 7:32 pm
Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by LadyForCamus - February 10, 2016 at 11:09 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by robvalue - February 10, 2016 at 12:19 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Divinity - February 10, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Brian37 - February 10, 2016 at 1:06 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Mister Agenda - February 11, 2016 at 12:08 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by drfuzzy - February 10, 2016 at 1:31 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Mister Agenda - February 11, 2016 at 11:52 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by robvalue - February 10, 2016 at 12:35 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by robvalue - February 10, 2016 at 2:14 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by downbeatplumb - February 10, 2016 at 3:43 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Catholic_Lady - February 10, 2016 at 4:16 pm
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Brian37 - February 12, 2016 at 7:21 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by robvalue - February 12, 2016 at 7:54 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Brian37 - February 12, 2016 at 8:06 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by robvalue - February 12, 2016 at 8:16 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Brian37 - February 12, 2016 at 8:42 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by robvalue - February 12, 2016 at 9:15 am
RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine - by Brian37 - February 12, 2016 at 9:45 am

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