Oh and CL, remember in the thread about rape, if I am remembering correctly you admitted you had no clue that a male rape victim could get an erection and ejaculate. Now here you are in another thread, telling a Gay Christian it is his business and if he is ok with it...
And again, this is not about rights, but logic. You need to consider if you can get the act of rape wrong, and that scientific knowledge of how the body acts under stress, if you can get that wrong, why would you think at all that religion is helpful to him?
Now again, this isn't about Catholics, this is about what ALL religions do to human thought unfortunately. Religion gap fills then when someone comes along and says "That is not an explanation, here is the biological reality", religion has unfortunately made it hard for you to give up on old ideas and bad claims.
We don't attack your claims because we hate our fellow humans, we attack your claims because they are wrong.
We would make the same argument to a Muslim or Jew or Hindu if they were saying "I don't hate gays, but it is simply unnatural"...... It would be a mistake to assume homophobia is exclusive to Catholics, it is unfortunately an ignorance that exists in many religions.
What is really going on, is that humans simply don't understand evolution. It is merely mistaking "Yucky to me" as evil when really all it is is a difference. If you really value protecting minorities then it does really help understanding reality outside your own personal bias.
And again, this is not about rights, but logic. You need to consider if you can get the act of rape wrong, and that scientific knowledge of how the body acts under stress, if you can get that wrong, why would you think at all that religion is helpful to him?
Now again, this isn't about Catholics, this is about what ALL religions do to human thought unfortunately. Religion gap fills then when someone comes along and says "That is not an explanation, here is the biological reality", religion has unfortunately made it hard for you to give up on old ideas and bad claims.
We don't attack your claims because we hate our fellow humans, we attack your claims because they are wrong.
We would make the same argument to a Muslim or Jew or Hindu if they were saying "I don't hate gays, but it is simply unnatural"...... It would be a mistake to assume homophobia is exclusive to Catholics, it is unfortunately an ignorance that exists in many religions.
What is really going on, is that humans simply don't understand evolution. It is merely mistaking "Yucky to me" as evil when really all it is is a difference. If you really value protecting minorities then it does really help understanding reality outside your own personal bias.