RE: Quotes acceptance
February 28, 2011 at 5:13 pm
(This post was last modified: February 28, 2011 at 5:41 pm by Emporion.)
(February 28, 2011 at 11:44 am)Rwandrall Wrote: I know someone who lost their wife of 23 years last year. Despite never usually going to Church or anything like that, he tried going to a prayer group for comfort. He openly admits that this idea, however unlikely, of seeing his wife again in the afterlife is the only thing that kept him able to keep his life from falling apart.
Heresay is not proof and unfortunately we don't have the technology to prove if his emotionally weak condition could have been solved in a secular fashion.
Emotions are a bitch sometimes, and when that happens, people have to let go of emotion and accept what happened in order to maintain a tough mental security system. When they don't let go, irrationality has a chance to poison them through many mediums.
(February 28, 2011 at 11:44 am)Rwandrall Wrote: For example, your argument about inspired-by-God texts. Assuming Jesus is the Messiah (i know, its bullshit, but still) then he recognized the Old Testament as true and his disciples, being chosen by him, are also inspired by the Holy Spirit. So now you have to prove that Jesus is not the Messiah for your argument to be true. And to prove that, you have to prove he didn't exist. So then you have to prove that the authors mentionning him, and the Apostles who we knew existed, were either wrong or lying. Etc etc etc. It takes a LONG time, and some skill that you get from experience, to get a theist all the way to the end of his excuses and then bash him with your arguments until you make a slight, tiny crack into one of his ideas. It's not as simple as you seem to think it is.
If "Jesus is the Messiah" is magically a given, then you have a sound point, but "Jesus is the Messiah" is not magically a given because you have to prove it first. It's heresy, and untill you prove it with empirical evidence, not biblical evidence, it doesn't exist to our rational knowledge of the world.