(February 13, 2016 at 6:09 pm)Irrational Wrote:(February 13, 2016 at 6:05 pm)Brian37 Wrote: If nothing lasts forever, and I agree, then not even nothing itself can last forever and has to lead to something.
I think that is what he means, which is why I wonder why it cant be that both nothing is finite and something is finite, and the only infinite part is the switching from one to the other over and over.
But again, you have the degree, so does Krauss, I still am a retard, with enough sense not to stick a god of the gaps answer into it. That really is my only bottom line. I'll let you both battle it out but we can all agree God did not do it.
For this nothing to even lead to something, that sounds like a "nothing" with potential, capacity, or fabric. I don't understand how that is literally a "nothing". A literal one would not lead to anything for it is nothing. That means, not even the potential to lead to anything.
That is why I personally believe there has always been "something" rather than "nothing".
Thats the point, not sure even Krauss is saying that. That is why he has said "nothing matters". I tend to agree, but that "something" as he said in that prior video, has nothing to do with mythological bullshit written 2000 years ago. I lean to not an either/or at the QM level, admittedly from a retard's point of view. But both depending on the quantum point of view. "It depends" and the QM math has a fucking shitload of "it depends" decimal places.
I'd still trust Krauss before CS Lewis or Pat Robertnuts.